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The future of AI in software development | Inbal Shani (CPO of GitHub)

Dec 1, 2023

In today's podcast, Lenny interviews Inbal Shani, CPO of GitHub, discussing the future of AI in software development. They cover topics such as overhyped and underhyped aspects of AI, AI-driven code generation, whether AI will replace developers, software development in the next few years, and how product teams operate at GitHub.

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Quick takeaways

AI in software development complements human creativity and innovation, rather than replacing it.

AI-driven testing is an underhyped area in software development with the potential for comprehensive testing suites.

AI tools like co-pilot will play a significant role in software development, allowing developers to focus on complex systems and the bigger picture.

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The evolving role of AI tools in software development

AI tools in software development are becoming increasingly important for improving productivity and the connected experience. While some may fear that AI will replace human developers, the speaker emphasizes that AI is a tool that complements human creativity and innovation. The use of AI enables junior developers to spend more time understanding complex systems and environments, freeing them up from basic coding tasks. The guest, Inbal Shanee, discusses the end state of AI-based tooling and shares insights on the underhyped potential of AI-driven testing in software development.

Idea of AI in collaboration for developers instead of production tool

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Key Insights from a Product Leader's Experience with GitHub

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AI's Impact on Developer Happiness and Productivity

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Two Keys to Generating Innovative Ideas: Customer Input and Internal Team Collaboration

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Introduction

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The Role of AI in Software Development and the Importance of Human Creativity

3min

Leveraging AI Tools in Software Development

16min

Measuring Developer Happiness and Shifting to Time to Value

4min

AI in Software Development: Balancing Efficiency and Satisfaction

6min

Encouraging Innovation within Teams

16min

Taking Risks and Embracing Discomfort

2min

Inbal Shani is the chief product officer at GitHub, where she leads core product management, along with product strategy, marketing, open source, and communities, including the development of GitHub Copilot. Prior to joining GitHub, she led engineering and product teams at Amazon and Microsoft. In today’s conversation, we discuss:

• What Inbal believes is overhyped and underhyped in the rapidly changing field of AI

• How AI-driven code generation is changing software development

• Her take on whether AI will replace developers

• How software development looks in 3 to 5 years

• How product teams operate at GitHub

• GitHub’s Next team, and other ways the company fosters a culture of innovation

• The success metrics and philosophy behind GitHub’s Copilot

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Where to find Inbal Shani:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/inbalshani/

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