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The future of AI in software development | Inbal Shani (CPO of GitHub)

Dec 1, 2023

Inbal Shani, the Chief Product Officer at GitHub and former leader at Amazon and Microsoft, delves into the evolving landscape of AI in software development. She shares insights on what aspects of AI are truly significant and tackles the misconception that AI will completely replace developers. Shani also highlights how GitHub Copilot enhances productivity while maintaining the creativity of coding. The conversation touches on fostering innovation within teams and the future of development practices, emphasizing collaboration and continuous learning.

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Quick takeaways

AI in software development complements human creativity and innovation, rather than replacing it.

AI-driven testing is an underhyped area in software development with the potential for comprehensive testing suites.

AI tools like co-pilot will play a significant role in software development, allowing developers to focus on complex systems and the bigger picture.

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The evolving role of AI tools in software development

AI tools in software development are becoming increasingly important for improving productivity and the connected experience. While some may fear that AI will replace human developers, the speaker emphasizes that AI is a tool that complements human creativity and innovation. The use of AI enables junior developers to spend more time understanding complex systems and environments, freeing them up from basic coding tasks. The guest, Inbal Shanee, discusses the end state of AI-based tooling and shares insights on the underhyped potential of AI-driven testing in software development.

The Failure Corner of Failure Stories

01:20

Measuring Success Metrics for CoPilot

03:21

How Companies are Using AI to Enhance Testing Capabilities

00:30

The GitHub NEX Research Team and the Synergy of Future Software Development

02:32

Intro

4min

The Role of AI in Advancing Software Development

3min

AI's Role in Revolutionizing Software Development

16min

Enhancing Developer Happiness and Collaboration through AI

4min

The Evolving Role of AI in Programming

6min

Fostering Innovation at GitHub and Microsoft

7min

Navigating Product Leadership

11min

Inbal Shani is the chief product officer at GitHub, where she leads core product management, along with product strategy, marketing, open source, and communities, including the development of GitHub Copilot. Prior to joining GitHub, she led engineering and product teams at Amazon and Microsoft. In today’s conversation, we discuss:

• What Inbal believes is overhyped and underhyped in the rapidly changing field of AI

• How AI-driven code generation is changing software development

• Her take on whether AI will replace developers

• How software development looks in 3 to 5 years

• How product teams operate at GitHub

• GitHub’s Next team, and other ways the company fosters a culture of innovation

• The success metrics and philosophy behind GitHub’s Copilot

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Where to find Inbal Shani:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/inbalshani/

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