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"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
— Samuel Johnson
We speak with President Thomas Jefferson about patriotism and Jefferson’s concept of what it is to be truly free.
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Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.
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