This is a conversation with Wen Liu and Brian Hioe, authors of the piece "From Taiwan to Ukraine" on Spectre. This episode was co-hosted by Romeo Kokriatski, co-host of the podcast "Ukraine Without Hype."

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Recommended Books:

• Reorienting Hong Kong's Resistance Leftism, Decoloniality, and Internationalism, edited by Wen Liu, JN Chien, Christina Chung, Ellie Tse
• The People's Republic of Amnesia: Tiananmen Revisited by Louisa Lim
• The Impossible City: A Hong Kong Memoir by Karen Cheung