The Transaction

Setting up Successful B2B SaaS Sales Development Orgs with Lars Nilsson - Ep 53

May 2, 2025

Lars Nilsson, Founder and CEO of SalesSource and former VP of Global Sales Development at Snowflake, shares his expertise in B2B sales development. He discusses the evolution of sales strategies in SaaS, highlighting the need for empowerment and recognition of Sales Development Representatives. Lars also explores the emerging role of go-to-market engineers and the innovative use of AI in sales training. The conversation underscores the importance of continuous learning and effective marketing strategies for boosting revenue and improving customer interactions.

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Quick takeaways

Recognizing the importance of SDRs in generating pipelines can significantly enhance morale and improve overall sales performance.

Implementing structured sales training and consistent professional development for SDRs boosts their effectiveness and retention within organizations.

The integration of AI and automation technologies empowers SDRs to work more efficiently, enhancing their engagement and productivity in sales efforts.

Deep dives

The Evolution of Cold Calling

Cold calling remains a relevant practice in sales, albeit going through various cycles of popularity. The conversation highlights the significance of crafting compelling content as a fundamental strategy for maintaining visibility in the marketplace. Without effective content that educates and inspires potential clients, businesses risk obscurity, regardless of their cold calling efforts. As technology evolves, the integration of innovative automation tools also enhances the capability of sales development representatives (SDRs) to engage effectively and meaningfully with leads.

Intro

3min

The Evolution of Sales Development

16min

Evolving Sales Strategies in SaaS

27min

AI's Impact on Sales Training

7min

Empowering Founders in Sales Development Through Technology

3min

Building Effective Marketing Strategies in Startups

4min

Not a long time ago in a Silicon Valley not too far away, the sales infrastructure of almost every startup was an immature, undisciplined mess… Until a certain former printer salesman turned up in town…

Lars Nilsson is the Founder and CEO of SalesSource, but you probably know him from his legendary run as the VP of Global Sales Development at Snowflake. To Craig, Lars is, “one of the masters of the universe in sales development and inside sales and business, and clearly very fit.” Lars joins co-hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson to discuss how we got to the current state of sales training and enablement in B2B SaaS, why the GTM Engineer role is the next hire you need to make to improve your revenue team, and whether having B2B sales reps roleplay with AI avatars is the way forward or just a waste of time.

Also, Craig relives stories of his past mastication, Producer Sam fights yet another losing battle, and Matt warns everyone that, “ we're going to go deep. We're going deep.”

Critical Takeaways

Recognize and elevate the Sales Development Representative (SDR) function within the organization. CEOs and senior leaders should regularly acknowledge the impact SDRs have on pipeline generation. Simple acts of recognition can significantly boost team morale and performance.
Create a systematic process to gather and disseminate insights and customer feedback from the front lines of sales. SDRs interact with numerous prospects daily, and their feedback can inform product development, marketing strategies, and sales tactics. Ensuring this information reaches executive levels can align the organization’s initiatives more closely with market needs.
Giving your sales team more ‘at-bats’ to practice and hone their craft results in better sellers. Leverage AI-based tools like role-playing bots to enhance SDR training. These tools can provide a scalable, less intimidating way for SDRs to practice their pitches and objection handling.
Encourage cross-departmental learning within your org. Facilitate opportunities for SDRs to learn from other teams, such as marketing, operations, and customer success. This cross-training can develop well-rounded employees and ensure smoother transitions when SDRs move into new roles within the company.
Consistently produce and share content that showcases successful customer stories and product use cases. Having a dedicated resource person, like the retired beat reporter who worked with Lean Data, can ensure continuous content production that drives engagement and educates prospects.
Encourage a culture where continuous learning and improvement are part of daily operations. Regularly update training programs and technology stacks, and stay abreast of the latest trends and tools in sales and marketing to maintain competitiveness.

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Chapters

00:00 - Episode Preview

00:35 - Craig Eats like Cookie Monster

03:13 - Introducing Lars Nilsson, the Founder & CEO of SalesSource and Former VP of Global Sales Development at Snowflake

07:46 - The Genesis of Sales Development in SaaS & How it Expanded on Account-Based Marketing Concepts

13:23 - How Xerox Trained Their B2B Sales Team and What Startups Should Learn from Their Success

21:34 - The Emerging GTM Engineer Role & The Impact Its Having on B2B Sales Teams Using AI Tools

34:59 - Should B2B Startups Try to Replicate the SDR Academy from Snowflake

38:17 - How Startup Leaders Can Elevate the SDR Role & Why They Must Show Their Appreciation for this Critical Function

45:42 - The Importance of AI Roleplaying Tools for Training B2B Salespeople

54:11 - Startups Founders Should Play a More Active Role in Developing Their Go To Market Strategy

Epic Quotes

“ I just think that Snowflake with 300 SDRs today, maybe in two years, they'll have 50. But each one will be able to punch above, like they are five individuals because of all the automation.” - Lars Nilsson
“ One Go-To-Market engineer today is going to make five SDRs punch like they're 25.” - Lars Nilsson

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