2WAY Tonight with Mark Halperin

Trump Defends Susie Wiles Over Interview, Says She's Right to Say He Has an "Alcoholic Personality"

Dec 17, 2025
Emily Jashinsky, a Conservative journalist, shares insights on the controversial Vanity Fair piece about Susie Wiles and argues that her job is safe despite the backlash. Julian Epstein, a former chief counsel, warns of groupthink surrounding Trump and analyzes the political implications of the rapid defense of Wiles. Sam Caucci, CEO of One Huddle, discusses how AI can gamify workplace training, highlighting its benefits across various industries. The episode delves into current political dynamics and the impact of economic messaging on voters.
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Why The Wiles Story Might Not End Her Role

  • Mark Halperin theorizes that Susie Wiles's Vanity Fair quotes may have been given off-the-record or taken out of context.
  • He suspects the widespread public support indicates she is unlikely to be fired imminently.
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Public Support Suggests Stability

  • Many senior figures publicly defended Susie Wiles, including the vice president and cabinet members.
  • Halperin sees that level of support as evidence she likely remains in favor.
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Trump Reframes The 'Alcoholic Personality' Line

  • Trump publicly defended Wiles and framed her remark as describing personality traits, not drinking.
  • He argued she meant 'personality manifestations' that resemble alcoholism, not that he drinks.
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