The Interview

George Saunders Says Ditching These Three Delusions Can Save You

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Jan 10, 2026
In this engaging conversation, George Saunders, an award-winning novelist known for his works focusing on empathy and mortality, shares his insights on kindness being a challenging daily practice rather than an innate quality. He discusses the importance of meditation in fostering awareness and honest writing. Saunders also reflects on how literature can expand empathy, the moral complexities of characters, and the societal impacts of capitalism. With humor and depth, he emphasizes that most people aren't evil but often struggle with their choices.
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INSIGHT

Art Raises Questions, Not Answers

  • George Saunders views art as a way to formulate hard questions rather than answer them definitively.
  • He aims to let characters present opposing viewpoints so readers engage with complexity.
ANECDOTE

Singapore Moment Shifted His Politics

  • Saunders recounts seeing elderly women manually clearing a hotel site in Singapore and feeling a shift in his politics.
  • That moment connected him to labor struggles and moved him away from Ayn Rand–style views.
INSIGHT

Specificity Undermines Judgment

  • Saunders says specificity in fiction undermines moral snap judgments and creates empathy.
  • By knowing a character deeply, like their memories and language, judgment feels childish.
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