Is the new Pope woke?

Nov 18, 2025

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Elise Ann Allen

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Dr. Massimo Faggioli, an expert in contemporary Catholicism, analyzes the nuances of wokeness in relation to the new Pope, Leo XIV. Inés San Martín shares insider perspectives on Francis's polarizing reforms and their fallout. Christopher White highlights Leo's focus on peace and social justice, while Elise Ann Allen discusses Leo's bid to bridge divides within the church. Together, they explore how Leo seeks to navigate complex issues like LGBTQ inclusion and adapt to a global demographic shift, revealing a pope with a unique approach yet grounded in tradition.

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Wokeness And Catholic Social Teaching Connect

Massimo Faggioli links modern 'wokeness' to recognizing structures of power and oppression in society.
He traces parallels between woke aims and long-standing Catholic social teaching on injustice.

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Francis's Background Shaped Polarising Reforms

Inés San Martín argues Pope Francis's global South background shaped his bold, sometimes confusing, reforms.
His emphasis on listening and synodality broadened participation but increased polarization.

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Leo Marries Tradition With Pastoral Priorities

Christopher White says Leo combines traditional papal imagery with Francis-like pastoral instincts.
Leo's priorities focus on peace, poverty, and the environment while seeking clearer communication.

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Cardinal Robert Prevost made history earlier this year, when he became the first American pontiff to lead the Catholic Church. And when he stepped out onto the balcony of St Peter’s Basilica as Pope Leo XIV, dressed in traditional papal robes, some conservatives in the church took it as a sign of a symbolic shift away from what they saw as the liberal drift of his predecessor the late Pope Francis.

Francis, who had put social justice at the heart of his papacy, divided opinion. Some Catholics praised his stance on issues like same-sex blessings, whilst others claimed that he had abandoned tradition for wokeness.

Now six months into his papacy, Pope Leo XIV is also coming under similar scrutiny, he’s already been criticized by some Catholics from the Make America Great Again (Maga) movement in the United States for blessing a block of Greenland ice. Whilst on the issue of same-sex blessings, his stated intention is to continue the same course as Pope Francis, that the Church’s teaching is not going to change on this issue.

But though he may also be advocating diversity, equity and inclusion, Pope Leo XIV may not necessarily be a carbon copy of his predecessor. As he prepares for his first apostolic visit to Turkey and Lebanon, Pope Leo XIV already appears to be charting a more nuanced path, grounded in pastoral instincts rather than divisive politics.

So, on The Inquiry this week we’re asking, ‘Is the new Pope woke?’

Contributors: Dr Massimo Faggioli, Professor in Ecclesiology, Loyola Institute, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland Inés San Martín, Vice President of Communications, The Pontifical Mission Societies, New York, USA Christopher White, Author ‘Pope Leo XIV: Inside the Conclave and the Dawn of New Papacy’, Associate Director, Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life, Georgetown University, Washington DC, USA Elise Ann Allen, Senior Correspondent for Crux, Author ‘Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the 21st Century’, Rome, Italy

Presenter: William Crawley Producer: Jill Collins Researcher: Maeve Schaffer Production Management Assistant: Liam Morrey Technical Producer: Craig Boardman Editor: Tom Bigwood

(Photo: Pope Leo XIV at the Vatican in May 2025. Credit: Mondadori Portfolio/Getty Images)