Episode 16: Recovery and Transformation

Jun 27, 2025

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In this episode, hosts Bill and Marty explore their unique approaches to coaching. Bill shares his experience with Internal Family Systems (IFS) and his Compassionate Results Guidebook, while Marty discusses his ontological leadership coaching. Together, they address how trauma affects everyone and the transformation possible through IFS and other modalities. Bill also reflects on his 42 years of sobriety, discussing the limitations of the 12-step program for him, and the profound impact of discovering Byron Katie's work. The conversation shifts into a discussion on emotional sobriety, the process of transformation, and the power of changing one’s mindset.

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00:00 Introduction and Hosts' Background
00:26 Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS)
01:42 The Role of Trauma in Coaching
03:46 Personal Experiences with Trauma
04:51 Understanding and Defining Trauma
05:14 Impact of Childhood Experiences
06:16 Coaching Through Trauma
07:16 Scientific Approach to Coaching
09:30 Historical Context of Trauma
12:50 Generational Trauma and Healing
14:50 Personal Transformation and Recovery
23:38 The Power of Perspective Shift
28:02 Effective Methods for Transformation
29:49 Struggling with Belief and Recovery
31:22 Questioning the 12-Step Program
32:36 Defining Personal Recovery
33:45 Emotional Sobriety and Personal Growth
36:37 Discovering Byron Katie's Work
44:36 Finding a New Concept of God
52:04 Integrating IFS and 12-Step Programs
53:02 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/

• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/

• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/

• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO

• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd

• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com

• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com

• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com