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The Only Constant

Episode #52 | Russ d'Sa | Possible Futures

Mar 13, 2025
01:22:58
In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom sits down with Russ D'Sa, co-founder of LiveKit, to discuss the future of AI, its impact on human interaction, and the fine line between utopia and dystopia. Their conversation covers:
  • Why Russ believes the "end state" of AI is easier to see than most think - but still comes with four possible futures.
  • The evolving relationship between humans and technology, from the early days of the internet to AI-powered interfaces.
  • How LiveKit is building the infrastructure to make AI more human-like in its interactions.
  • The real-world applications of multimodal AI - voice, vision, and robotics—and where they could lead us.
  • The tension between technological progress and regulation: Are we building rails for AI, or is it already running off the tracks?
This episode dives deep into the philosophical and practical implications of AI, challenging the utopian dreams and dystopian fears shaping the industry today. 

Do yo want to know more about Russ d'Sa?
Russ d'Sa is a prominent figure in the tech industry, currently serving as the CEO and co-founder of LiveKit, a company that builds infrastructure for real-time audio and video applications, including those used by AI platforms like ChatGPT and Character.ai. With a background as an early engineer at Twitter and 23andMe, d'Sa has extensive experience in the tech sector. He's a serial entrepreneur, having previously founded the mobile search platform Evie Labs, which was later acquired by Medium. His entrepreneurial journey also includes being a YC S07 founder. At LiveKit, d'Sa is focused on simplifying AI development by providing open-source and cloud-based infrastructure for real-time audio and video applications. The company has gained significant attention for its collaboration with OpenAI, powering advanced voice features in the ChatGPT app. D'Sa's vision extends beyond current applications, as he sees LiveKit as building the "nervous system" for future AI innovation. He's particularly interested in the potential of multimodal AI applications and how they will shape human-computer interactions in the future. Throughout his career, d'Sa has adapted his motivations and approach to entrepreneurship, focusing on having a meaningful impact and working on ideas he's passionate about.

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