

The Only Constant
Lasse Rindom
Tune in to The Only Constant for insights you haven’t heard before - and for deep conversations at the intersection of business, technology, and AI, where the only thing that stays the same is change.
This podcast is for those who prioritize exploration over explanation.
For those who enjoy difficult questions more than easy answers.
For anyone looking to stay ahead and relevant in an age of accelerating change.
Join host Lasse Rindom as he speaks with global thought leaders about how AI and emerging technologies are actually being adopted in enterprise settings. Episodes explore the challenges of scaling generative AI, governing stochastic systems, embedding human-in-the-loop approaches, and confronting ethical trade-offs.
With a focus on pragmatic strategy, past automation lessons, and a touch of business philosophy, this podcast dives deep into how organizations deal with unstructured data, real implementation hurdles, and the messy reality of transformation.
Sponsored by Basico.
Driven by curiosity.
This podcast is for those who prioritize exploration over explanation.
For those who enjoy difficult questions more than easy answers.
For anyone looking to stay ahead and relevant in an age of accelerating change.
Join host Lasse Rindom as he speaks with global thought leaders about how AI and emerging technologies are actually being adopted in enterprise settings. Episodes explore the challenges of scaling generative AI, governing stochastic systems, embedding human-in-the-loop approaches, and confronting ethical trade-offs.
With a focus on pragmatic strategy, past automation lessons, and a touch of business philosophy, this podcast dives deep into how organizations deal with unstructured data, real implementation hurdles, and the messy reality of transformation.
Sponsored by Basico.
Driven by curiosity.
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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 4min
Episode #67 | Frank Casale | On empathy from machines, and the discomfort of real change
In this episode, Lasse Rindom speaks with Frank Casale - entrepreneur, advisor, and long-time voice in automation and enterprise change. Frank calls himself a “conflicted futurist,” and it shows - in the best way possible. Together, they discuss:
Why most companies say “agentic” but act quarter-to-quarter
How AI isn’t just smart- it’s becoming empathic, and what that unlocks
The real revolution: not tech, but how work gets done
Why the next big wave isn’t just automation, but it’s services powered by digital labor
Frank is sharp, provocative, and uncomfortably honest. If your roadmap still starts with tools, this might rattle your framing
Do you want to know more Frank Casale?
Frank Casale is a veteran in enterprise growth, go-to-market strategy, and emerging tech, best known as the founder of the Institute for Robotic Process Automation & AI, The Outsourcing Institute, and most recently Tranquilla AI - an empathic-AI startup delivering comfort, concierge, and coaching services. With over two decades of experience selling into complex, regulated, and global markets, Frank has helped early-stage and scaling companies break through noise, build trust-based sales pipelines, and close strategic deals with enterprise giants like GM, Citibank, PwC, and IBM. He’s a recognized voice in the automation and AI ecosystem, known for his straight talk, strategic clarity, and ability to spot momentum before it peaks.
As an operator, advisor, and super-connector, Frank opens doors most teams can’t. His global network - spanning over 150,000 professionals and 30,000+ direct LinkedIn connections - includes buyers, investors, alliance partners, and influencers across the U.S., EMEA, and APAC. Whether he’s shaping go-to-market strategies, launching empathic-AI platforms, or speaking on the future of digital labor, Frank’s focus remains consistent: helping tech companies grow faster by building relationships that convert - and by staying two steps ahead of where the market is going.

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 9min
Episode #66 | Hans Petter Dalen | On the importance of governance, and the art of making AI useful
In this episode, Lasse Rindom is joined by Hans Petter Dalen - “HP” to most - who heads up AI Governance for IBM across Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. With more than two decades inside IBM and a rare mix of realism, wit, and deep enterprise insight, HP brings clarity to a conversation often lost in hype words and messages.
Together, they unpack:
How IBM actually saved $3.5 billion with AI - and why it's more than just a nice number or marketing message
Why AI governance isn’t bureaucracy, but the key to doing real things at scale
The hidden cost of shadow AI, and why your apps may already be leaking value and risk
And why relevance, not general capability, is the true frontier for enterprise AI
HP doesn’t sugarcoat it: most companies are still in the sandbox. But the tools are here, the use cases are maturing, and the mandate is clear- get serious, or get left behind.
Do you want to know more about Hans Petter Dalen?
Hans-Petter (”HP”) Dalen, is IBM’s Business Executive for AI in EMEA. He has 25 years of experience in IBM, and has for the past many years discussed AI Use Cases and how to operationalize them across many industries.
HP is Norwegian, and has lived in Denmark for the last 20 years with his family. He is an engaging speaker, panelist and podcaster. He has addressed the OECD, parliament committees, standardization bodies and ministries.
LinkedIn profile: www.linkedin.com/in/hans-petter-dalen-691b345

Jun 26, 2025 • 1h 24min
Episode #65 | Surojit Chatterjee | Building Real AI Employees
In this episode, Lasse Rindom speaks with Surojit Chatterjee, CEO of Ema AI - a platform for building agentic AI employees that automate complex enterprise workflows across systems and departments. The conversation cuts through the hype and dives into real operational challenges of scaling generative AI in the enterprise:
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing” - and what truly separates intelligent agents from chatbots and RPA
The balance between letting agents act autonomously and keeping them purposefully inhibited to ensure trust and control
How cross-silo AI deployment and change management are becoming more critical than model accuracy
A must-listen if you think your enterprise is AI agent–ready. Are you sure it is?
Do you want to know more about Surojit Chatterjee?
Surojit is the founder and CEO of Ema, the company pioneering agentic AI to transform enterprise work. Previously, he guided Coinbase through a successful 2021 IPO as its Chief Product Officer and scaled Google Mobile Ads and Google Shopping into multi-billion dollar businesses as the VP and Head of Product. Surojit holds 40 US patents and has an MBA from MIT, MS in Computer Science from SUNY at Buffalo, and B. Tech from IIT Kharagpur.

Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 15min
Episode #64 | Nicolai Storm Lund | Agile minds, Firm foundations
In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom sits down with Nicolai Storm Lund, Vice President of Digital Technology & Information Security at Velux, to talk about what it really means to lead digital change in the machine room - beyond buzzwords and boardroom slides.
They discuss:
Why AI is just another tool - until it’s paired with real problems and real accountability
How IT needs to be both flexible and firm: agile enough to build fast, structured enough to scale responsibly
The discipline of saying no - and why it’s often the most important part of driving change
What it takes to move from proof-of-concept to production - when business expectations are moving faster than systems can keep up
It’s a conversation about staying clear-headed when things speed up - and keeping purpose at the center when everyone else is chasing trends.
Do you want to know more about Nicolai Storm Lund?
Nicolai Storm Lund is Vice President of Digital Technology & Information Security at VELUX, where he leads global IT infrastructure, cloud operations, digital workplace, and information security initiatives. Based in Denmark, he oversees datacenter operations, network management, cloud adoption, identity and authentication, as well as global IT support for over 12,000 users across the company’s worldwide locations.
Throughout the past 25 years, Nicolai have held international management roles in the space of Information Technology, with the international facility services giant ISS A/S, as well as GN Store Nord known for Jabra and GN ReSound.
With a career spanning leadership role at major international companies, Nicolai brings deep expertise in IT operations, security architecture, and digital transformation. Nicolai is recognized for his strategic vision, technical acumen, and commitment to fostering high-performing teams that drive innovation and operational excellence in complex, global environments. He puts an honor in representing what he calls “Mid-Wife leadership”.
He is a father of three, hobby farmer, passionate strength sports fan, and a fan of pretty much everything with a motor.

Jun 12, 2025 • 57min
Episode #63 | Tom Reuner | Putting outcome at the core of AI
In this episode, Lasse Rindom is joined by one of his favourite analysts - Tom Reuner. Principal Analyst at PAC, Tom is known for calling out hype, challenging lazy narratives, and bringing a historian’s lens to enterprise tech. They discuss:
Why orchestration beats buzzwords in the race to value
How agentic AI won’t fix anything if your architecture’s still a mess
The repeated failure to turn tech promise into operational change
Why ambiguity is the true enemy of enterprise AI
And what providers conveniently leave out when talking transformation
Tom combines deep market insight with just the right amount of cynicism - plus decades of experience working with automation, cloud, AI, and enterprise service delivery.If you’re tired of decks with no outcomes and pilots with no path to production, this one’s worth your time.
Do you want to know more about Tom Reuner
Tom Reuner is a Principal Analyst at PAC based in London, UK.Tom is passionate about helping clients solve business problems and understand technology adoption. He has gained a strong reputation for blending developing innovation frameworks with pragmatic advice while connecting communities. Leveraging his long entrenchment in the automation community and having worked with some of the brightest minds in AI for a startup, Tom guides PAC’s thought leadership on automation and AI.
Tom’s extensive knowledge of the market will allow him to contribute to PAC’s research in Europe and in the US on a broad range of hot topics including cloud transformation, Artificial Intelligence (AI) and automation, and software platforms (like ServiceNow and Salesforce).His deep understanding of market dynamics comes from having held senior high-profile positions at multiple analyst firms, where his responsibilities included research, consulting, and business development. Tom is based in London and will be directly involved in PAC’s UK coverage as well as our Software and IT Services (SITSI®) Research Program and international consulting projects.
Tom has a Ph.D. in history from the University of Göttingen in Germany.

Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 25min
Episode #62 | Katrin Gülden Le Maire | AI, Ethics and the Limits of Truth
In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom sits down with Katrin Gülden Le Maire, senior advisor, philosopher, and business thinker, for a sharp, deep dive into ethics, AI, and the limits of truth. Together they untangle the buzzwords, the confusion, and the hidden tensions shaping today’s corporate decisions:Why “ethics” in business isn’t what most people think
How philosophical reflection, not just compliance, shapes real strategy
Why leadership often rushes into AI adoption without asking the right foundational questions
How governance becomes culture, and why ethical direction must come top-down
Why ethics isn’t just about what you do - but also about what you refuse to do
At its heart, this conversation explores the hard questions: Is it real? Is it true? Is it right? Katrin’s perspective reminds us that rushing into technological change without pausing for deep, structured reflection is a failure not just of ethics but of leadership itself.
Do you want to know more about Katrin Gülden Le Maire?
Dr. Katrin Gülden Le Maire is a seasoned strategic advisor and independent researcher with over 25 years of experience across the finance, real estate and technology sector. Her work is characterized by a strong emphasis on governance, ethical leadership, and the integration of philosophical insights into business practices.
Based in Paris, Katrin has an extensive international background, having lived and worked in Germany, the UK, and France. She provides guidance to leaders and Boards on strategic development, positioning and governance – working with a value-add approach.
She earned a Doctorate in Philosophy from Middlesex University, where her interdisciplinary research delved into the educational and science-political developments on the scientific credibility of theology as a university discipline in Germany. She holds a Master of Science in Corporate Communications from Rotterdam Business School and has completed further studies in Financial Management and Theology at British universities. Moreover, Katrin is a Chartered Financial Analyst ESG.
Katrin research interests are interdisciplinary, encompassing cyber ethics, democracy development, social cohesion, and epistemology. She selectively teaches and participates in scientific research at the the intersection of philosophy, the political and cognitive sciences.
In addition to her advisory and research roles, she is actively involved in promoting female leadership. She serves as an advisor to ACTIVES, a French coalition, which aims to promote female senior talent to lead CAC40 companies. Katrin is a former advisor to the Policy Liaison Group ESG in Westminster/UK with focus on the development of a British taxonomy.
Katrin is a recognized contributor to international forums such as the Women's Forum Global Meeting or Women in Tech, where she discusses topics related to cyber ethics, AI and tech diplomacy.
For more information about her work and publications, you can visit her official website at kglemaire.com or follow her on LinkedIn.

May 29, 2025 • 1h 11min
Episode #61 | Peter Vester | Enterprise AI
In this episode of The Only Constant, host Lasse Rindom speaks with Peter Vester, Lead Data Scientist at Novo Nordisk and winner of the 2024 DAIR Award for Data Science Professional of the Year. Peter’s approach cuts through the usual GenAI hype.
Together they explore:
Why the right question is never “can we do a GenAI solution?” but “what real problem are we solving?”
How Novo rolled out an internal AI marketplace and chatbot to 30,000 employees without losing control or trust
Why the better the model, the more dangerous human laziness becomes
How to balance creativity and accuracy when deploying GenAI in a highly regulated pharma environment
The long-term risk: replacing engineers with AI and eroding critical system understanding
For anyone interested in making AI work in the enterprise (not just in demos), this episode will spark plenty of reflection.
Do you want to know more about Peter Vester?
Peter Vester is Lead Data Scientist at Novo Nordisk with a PhD, several scientific publications and front-cover articles, and multiple international awards, including the DAIR Awards "AI / Data Science Professional of the Year 2023 / 2024" for the Nordic countries. He has also been recognized as a Top-100 talent in Danish Business by Berlingske. As a specialist in Generative AI, he leads a team developing high-quality business solutions with large language models and agents.
Peter works on initiating and leading data science projects across a wide range of domains, including research, clinical trials, marketing, finance, and the supply chain. His passion lies in creating real business value from data by putting machine learning into production and going beyond the proof-of-concept stage. He is also an official subject matter expert in Machine Learning for AWS.
To Peter, data science goes beyond just numbers - it’s about uncovering the stories they tell and the valuable lessons they offer. He compares it to scaling a mountain: full of difficulties, obstacles, and challenges, but with a view at the top that makes the journey worthwhile. Like any adventurer, he enjoys sharing the path he took, the hurdles he overcame, and the awe of standing at the peak of the data mountain.

May 22, 2025 • 1h 13min
Episode #60 | Anna Tebelius Bodin | AI and the cost of convenience
In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom speaks with Anna Tebelius Bodin - a Harvard-educated educator and brain science communicator - about the essential role of effort in cultivating meaning and fulfillment in a world increasingly defined by convenience.Together, they explore:
Why friction and striving are central to personal growth - and how AI’s instant gratification risks leaving us empty
The cost of outsourcing thought: what we gain in speed, we risk losing in identity, learning, and satisfaction
The paradox of progress: when we get what we want too easily, we lose the very desire that drove us
The responsibility of leaders and educators to protect focus, mental engagement, and human connection
As Anna warns, “A brain that isn’t used won’t be needed.”
This episode is a timely reflection on what makes life meaningful - and what we should be careful not to automate away ...
Do you want to know more about Anna Tebelius Bodin?
Anna Tebelius Bodin is a speaker, author, and educator, with a master’s degree from Harvard University, where she also assisted research.
She has given more than 1700 lectures on the psychology behind leadership, personal development and learning. Her books have been appreciated for making complex theory simple enough to provide profound insights to everyday life. As recognition of her work, she received the 2020 Swedish Mensa Award.

May 15, 2025 • 1h 13min
Episode #59 | Stuart Winter-Tear | From hype to stewardship
In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom speaks with Stuart Winter-Tear, a sharp voice in the AI space known for balancing enthusiasm with critical insight. Their conversation tracks the evolution from generative AI hype to something more measured, thoughtful - and ultimately more valuable:
Why real transformation won’t come from flashy demos, but from deep integration into workflows and systems
The risks of treating GenAI as a strategy rather than a tool, and the importance of grounding AI in real business needs
The growing tension between innovation speed and security, and how enterprises are re-learning old lessons too fast to apply them
How “shadow AI” and sycophantic AI models are creating both hidden risks and unexpected human dependencies
This episode isn’t about AI optimism or pessimism. It’s about realism. As Stuart puts it, we may all end up stewards of AI systems - whether we’re ready or not.
Do you want to know more about Stuart Winter-Tear?
Stuart is an accomplished Product Leader with 20+ years driving innovation across AI, Cybersecurity, eCommerce, and SaaS. As a fractional CPO, advisor, and consultant, he partners with ambitious companies to scale smarter, innovate faster, and bring cutting-edge products to market. He has founded and grown ventures, led cross-functional teams in both startups and enterprises, and delivered patented AI solutions that transformed adoption, automation, and growth.
Known for combining deep technical insight with strategic clarity, Stuart specialises in product innovation, go-to-market execution, and aligning AI capabilities with real-world business needs. As an Ambassador at the Centre for GenAIOps and a frequent speaker and writer, Stuart is at the forefront of AI evolution - committed to helping teams build ethical, impactful, and market-leading products.

May 8, 2025 • 1h 32min
Episode #58 | David Pontoppidan | SAP and Deliberate AI
In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom speaks with David Pontoppidan, Head of Business AI for Nordics & Baltics at SAP - a mind as sharp as the systems he builds. The conversation dives into how SAP is embedding AI across its enterprise suite, not just as a bolt-on, but as part of a deeply integrated, multi-agent architecture. Together, they explore:
Whether AI in ERP is truly transformation - or just lipstick on a pig
How SAP's knowledge graph and semantic data layers redefine what agents can actually do
The tension between standardization and customization in AI-powered enterprise processes
Why slow decision-making isn’t always bad - and sometimes necessary
The philosophical and political implications of AI, from entropy to biopolitics, norms, and truth
How jazz, entropy, and citizen developers all make surprising cameos in the future of enterprise tech
This one goes deep - from practical ERP use cases to Foucault, Habermas, and the nature of truth in AI governance. A must-listen for anyone trying to steer technology in a world where we need to define not only what we can do - but what we won’t do.
Do you want to know more about David Pontoppidan:
David Pontoppidan is the Head of Business AI for SAP across the Nordics & Baltics, guiding some of the world’s leading organisations to turn AI investments into hard-currency value. Known for his sharp analogies and the occasional pop culture reference, David helps executives trade “Artificial Ignorance” for data-driven decisions that actually move the P&L.
A former army language officer turned management-consultant-turned-tech strategist and executive, David blends his background in behavioural economics and sociology with deep business insight as he completes an Executive MBA in Finance at Copenhagen Business School.