Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

S16 E31: Andrew Camilleri ”Kukks” on Ark, BTCPay Server & Open Source Bitcoin Software

Jun 27, 2025
Andrew Camilleri, known as Kukks, is a key contributor to BTCPay Server and is currently building Bitcoin Layer 2 applications at Ark Labs. He discusses the innovative ARK framework that enhances Bitcoin's transaction efficiency and user experience. The conversation dives into privacy solutions integrated with BTCpay, the significance of off-chain transactions, and the challenges of regulatory compliance. Kukks emphasizes the importance of community collaboration while exploring future advancements in cryptocurrency, particularly in scaling and usability.
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ANECDOTE

Early Crypto Integration Journey

  • Andrew Camilleri initially explored integrating Ethereum and various altcoins before focusing exclusively on Bitcoin.
  • His work on Monero plugins helped develop BTC Pay Server's flexible plugin system.
INSIGHT

Ark as Bitcoin's Pragmatic Future

  • Most Bitcoiners have accepted limited protocol changes and work with existing tools like Ark.
  • Ark offers a new way to build on Bitcoin without relying on unseen upgrades like CTV.
INSIGHT

ARK Virtual UTXO Concept

  • ARK creates "virtual UTXOs" that never hit the Bitcoin blockchain unless needed.
  • It functions as an advanced transaction batching and virtual ledger layer over Bitcoin.
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