If you haven’t heard, there’s a new GenAI tool on the block, and the other neighborhood kids aren’t too happy about it. The newbie, DeepSeek, is stirring up a major rivalry with OpenAI over some alleged and oh-so ironic data “theft”—ha. So, what does Jared think? Well, he’s here for the drama, AND for the AI ethics admonitions all you lawyers need to hear.

Later, even more ethics! Jared welcomes April McMurrey to hear about the problematic things lawyers do to get themselves into ethical trouble. From iffy (or nonexistent) fee agreements to tech incompetence to communication breakdowns, and more, April dishes on common reasons attorneys are reported for ethics violations. And, don’t worry, she also offers sage advice on how to keep your clients happy and your practice on the up and up.

Finally, April sticks around for some Rump Roast trivia dedicated to Colorful Colorado. Just wait til you hear about Blucifer—yikes.

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April M. McMurrey is Deputy Regulation Counsel for the intake division of the Colorado Supreme Court Office of Attorney Regulation Counsel.

Mentioned in this episode:

ABA 50th National Conference on Professional Responsibility

Spilling the Tea on Legal Ethics Missteps and DeepSeek Drama