Matt McGarry, a newsletter expert and the founder of GrowLetter, joins Erik to discuss his newsletter and media insights from his work with The Hustle, Sahil Bloom, The Milk Road, and more clients through his specialized agency. This is a masterclass in newsletter growth, email acquisition, and monetization models. Matt highlights opportunities in B2B and niche markets, stresses the importance of diverse newsletters, and advocates for a multimedia strategy including podcasts.

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LINKS:

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:48) Matt's journey into newsletters

(02:36) Agora model explained

(07:14) Leveraging paid marketing for newsletter growth

(16:40) Sponsor: Beehiiv and Turpentine

(18:28) Podcasts vs. newsletters

(19:56) Monetization and growth tactics

(25:28) Choosing the right niches and monetization models

(31:14) Exploring B2B newsletter success

(33:20) Challenges and opportunities in media niches

(35:51) Local media and hyper-niche opportunities

(43:41) Creating a master brand vs. niche newsletters

(50:53) Monetization tactics and lead generation

(54:28) More about Matt’s GrowLetter

(58:21) Wrap

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