The Emma Guns Show Gretchen Rubin | How to Create Outer Order Inner Calm
Gretchen Rubin (@gretchenrubin) returns to the podcast to talk to me about her new book Outer Order Inner Calm and how a taking control of our stuff can make us feel more in control of our lives.
Gretchen also hosts the podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin.
Gretchen's other books:
The Four Tendencies - and here's her appearance on this podcast talking about that book: Gretchen Rubin | The Four Tendencies.
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