The Bridge with Peter Mansbridge

Moore Butts - Is Ottawa Ready For A Possible Two Front Referendum Battle?

Dec 9, 2025
Gerald Butts, a political advisor and former principal secretary to Justin Trudeau, teams up with James Moore, a former cabinet minister and Conservative MP, for a deep dive into the looming threat of simultaneous referendums in Quebec and Alberta. They examine Ottawa's preparedness, the impact of past crises on federal responses, and the cultural stakes involved. Tensions rise as they discuss the risks of foreign interference and the need for a robust 'No' campaign. Their insightful conversation sheds light on what national unity truly requires.
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Forewarned Is Forearmed

  • Forewarning about a Quebec referendum is essential because Ottawa previously failed to plan for 1995.
  • Gerald Butts argues being forewarned lets institutions prepare rather than panic at the last minute.
ANECDOTE

1995 Night Of National Anxiety

  • Gerald Butts recalls being a terrified grad student during the 1995 referendum night.
  • He describes holding on to the country "by our fingernails" as the results came in.
INSIGHT

Think In Cascades

  • Political leaders must imagine cascading scenarios and reactions to prepare effectively.
  • James Moore warns that failing to imagine the unthinkable leaves governments unready for rapid escalation.
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