Former Conservative cabinet minister James Moore and Gerald Butts, a key figure in Justin Trudeau's administration, delve into Canada's intricate political climate. They discuss the implications of the NDP's pullback from their agreement with the Liberals and the challenges of minority governance. The conversation highlights strategic coalition-building, potential referendums in Quebec, and rising political tensions. They also touch on the influences of U.S. politics, safety for politicians amid unrest, and predictions for future leadership changes.