The Nathan Barry Show Stop Setting Goals! Do This Instead | Anne-Laure Le Cunff | 084
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Jul 3, 2025 
Anne-Laure Le Cunff, a neuroscientist and the founder of Ness Labs, discusses mindful productivity and the power of 'tiny experiments.' She reveals how she built a $250K business while completing her PhD, emphasizing that reflection is more crucial than rigid goals. The conversation covers her journey with quitting YouTube and why it was beneficial and explores how to create mental health systems within teams. Anne-Laure highlights the balance between good stress and bad stress and advocates for personalized approaches over traditional goal-setting for sustainable growth.
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Tiny Experiments Over Big Goals
- Tiny experiments focus on learning rather than hitting a specific destination or binary success/failure.
- This approach encourages continuous adaptation and discovery over rigid goal targeting.
Balance Action with Reflection
- Combine consistent action with reflection to grow effectively as a creator.
- Without reflection, consistent efforts risk repeating ineffective patterns and stagnating progress.
Quitting YouTube Experiment
- Anne-Laure tried a weekly YouTube video experiment for two and a half months.
- Despite decent external metrics, her dislike and anxiety about recording led her to quit after completing the experiment.
