

Spiritual Intelligence on the Job: Cindy Wigglesworth and Dawson Church in Conversation
Jul 4, 2025
47:10
Cindy Wigglesworth is the bestselling author of SQ21: The Twenty-One Skills of Spiritual Intelligence. Her SQ21 spiritual intelligence self-assessment has created a validated and diversity-appropriate way of having spiritual conversations in the workplace. John Mackey, CEO of Whole Foods Market, calls SQ “the next frontier in leadership.” Cindy has appeared on Oprah, PBS, and numerous other national media and conferences. Through her company Deep Change, she consults on leadership development and sustainable corporate culture.
She and Dawson have been sharing ideas about SQ for years, and here talk about:
- How personal growth makes you so much more effective as a leader
- Cindy's background
- Why SQ is love in action
- Defining SQ as the ability to behave with wisdom and compassion while maintaining inner and outer peace
- An essential skill is distinguishing between your ego and higher self
- Awareness that your ego self exists
- Observing the ego and noticing the differences between it and the higher self
- Recognizing in the body the situations where ego wants to take charge
- Learning to hear the voice of the higher self.
- Shifting from Ego to Higher Self, acronym, SOUL
- S for Stop. Interrupt the pattern.
- O for Observe what’s happening in your body
- U for Understanding deeply from the other person’s perspective
- L for Love; find a loving response