
High Energy Health Podcast
Join Dr. Dawson Church, a best-selling science writer, to explore the leading edge of health and happiness, along with practical techniques to maximize your wellbeing.
Latest episodes

Jul 4, 2025 • 47min
Spiritual Intelligence on the Job: Cindy Wigglesworth and Dawson Church in Conversation
Cindy Wigglesworth is the bestselling author of SQ21: The Twenty-One Skills of Spiritual Intelligence. Her SQ21 spiritual intelligence self-assessment has created a validated and diversity-appropriate way of having spiritual conversations in the workplace. John Mackey, CEO of Whole Foods Market, calls SQ “the next frontier in leadership.” Cindy has appeared on Oprah, PBS, and numerous other national media and conferences. Through her company Deep Change, she consults on leadership development and sustainable corporate culture.
She and Dawson have been sharing ideas about SQ for years, and here talk about:
How personal growth makes you so much more effective as a leader
Cindy's background
Why SQ is love in action
Defining SQ as the ability to behave with wisdom and compassion while maintaining inner and outer peace
An essential skill is distinguishing between your ego and higher self
Awareness that your ego self exists
Observing the ego and noticing the differences between it and the higher self
Recognizing in the body the situations where ego wants to take charge
Learning to hear the voice of the higher self.
Shifting from Ego to Higher Self, acronym, SOUL
S for Stop. Interrupt the pattern.
O for Observe what’s happening in your body
U for Understanding deeply from the other person’s perspective
L for Love; find a loving response
Learn more about Cindy and her work at: https://www.deepchange.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #ego #soul #deepchange

Jun 26, 2025 • 47min
Reversing Chronic Disease: James Maskell and Dawson Church in Conversation
On a mission to flatten the curve of healthcare costs, James Maskell has spent the past decade innovating at the cross section of functional medicine and community. He created the Functional Forum, the world’s largest integrative medicine conference. He is author of the book The Evolution of Medicine, which prepares health professionals for a new era of personalized, participatory medicine.
James and I discuss:
James' background
Discovering our society is on the brink of a precipice of chronic disease
People supporting each other in their own healing
Why all lifestyle diseases lead to brain inflammation
TruNeura software
How our culture reinforces the most unhealthy behaviors
James' personal vision
Collective models of ownership
You can find more information at: https://goevomed.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #truneura #evolutionofmedicine #chronicdisease

Jun 19, 2025 • 55min
Walking Your Life Story: Michael Gelb and Dawson Church in Conversation
Michael J. Gelb is a pioneer in the fields of creative thinking, innovative leadership and executive coaching. His clients include DuPont, Emerson, Genentech, KPMG, Merck, Microsoft, Nike and YPO. Michael trained as a teacher of the Alexander Technique and holds a fifth-degree black belt in the martial art of Aikido. Michael is the author of 18 books which have been translated into 25 languages and have sold more than one million copies. They include How to Think Like Leonardo Da Vinci, The Healing Organization and Walking Well: A New Approach for Comfort, Vitality and Inspiration in Every Step with Bruce Fertman.
Here he and Dawson discuss:
Where we hold our traumas
“Character armor”
Why our old patterns are embedded, and change is hard. What can we do?
Benefits of EFT, walking, qigong, and meditation
Expanding rather than contracting
As well as trauma triggers, we can find glimmers that remind us of wellbeing
Finding your glimmer.
A day in the life of Michael Gelb: his personal practices for wellbeing
How is body awareness linked to spirituality?
To learn more about Michael Gelb: https://michaelgelb.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #creativity #innovation #leadership

Jun 12, 2025 • 46min
Happy for No Reason: Marci Shimoff and Dawson Church in Conversation
Marci Shimoff is a #1 New York Times bestselling author, a world-renowned transformational teacher, and an expert on happiness, success, and unconditional love. Marci’s books include the runaway bestsellers, Happy for No Reason, Love for No Reason, and six titles in the phenomenally successful Chicken Soup for the Woman’s Soul series. Her books have sold more than 16 million copies worldwide. Marci hosts a podcast called Living in the Miracle Zone and leads a worldwide program called Your Year of Miracles with thousands of participants from over 80 countries.
She and Dawson have been close friends for many years, and here talk about:
Generational trauma
Marci's background
Transcendental Meditation
Research shows happiness is 50% genetic, 10% our circumstances, 40% our habits of thought and behavior
The 7 categories of happiness habits
Taking responsibility for your happiness
Your emotional immune system
The Inner Ease Technique
The more we’re filled with light, the more it impacts the world
Find Marci at:
www.HappyForNoReason.com
www.YourYearofMiracles.com
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #happiness #happyfornoreason #happinesshabits

Jun 5, 2025 • 47min
Tapping In: Laurel Parnell and Dawson Church in Conversation
Laurel Parnell is a clinical psychologist and one of the world’s leading experts on Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). Since 1995 she has trained thousands of clinicians in EMDR both nationally and internationally. She is co-director of the non-profit Trauma Assistance Program International (TAP-IN), and the author of several books including, A Therapist’s Guide to EMDR and Tapping In. Dr. Parnell has served on the faculty of the California Institute for Integral Studies and John F. Kennedy University.
Here she and Dawson discuss:
Laurel's background
What is EMDR?
The benefits of EMDR
Working with neural networks and their response to tapping
Activating the “felt sense” of your resources
Bilateral stimulation
Rhythms: tapping, squishing balls, drumming on desk
How EMDR is different from Resource Tapping
Why Resource Tapping uses imagination and resourcing to prepare people
Dr. Laurel Parnell can be found at: https://parnellemdr.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #trauma #emdr #therapy #resourcetapping #tapping

May 30, 2025 • 45min
Mindfulness and Community Empowerment: Ali and Atman Smith and Dawson Church in Conversation
Ali and Atman Smith are Baltimore-born brothers who co-founded the Holistic Life Foundation (HLF) in 2001. Raised in a household immersed in yoga and meditation, they deepened their practice during college at the University of Maryland. Motivated to revitalize their West Baltimore community, they established HLF to provide yoga, mindfulness, and wellness programs to underserved populations. Their initiatives have reached over 200,000 individuals across diverse settings, including schools, detention centers, and wellness centers. In their book Let Your Light Shine they share insights on mindfulness and community empowerment.
Here they and Dawson discuss:
Their background
Counseling those in trauma
Sympathetic dominance breathing
Connecting with people authentically to lay the foundation
Why other people will see the difference in you before you see it in yourself
Being Social Entrepreneurs
The Holistic Life Foundation's mission
Their new program for changing detention to meditation
To learn more about Ali, Atman, and The Holistic Life Foundation: https://holisticlifefoundation.org/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #trauma #yoga #mindfulness #community #holisticlifefoundation

May 21, 2025 • 47min
The Genetics of Health: Dr. Sharad Paul and Dawson Church in Conversation
Sharad Paul is a physician and the author of several books in the field of skin, medicine, and genomics such as Skin, a Biography and The Genetics of Health. He has been honored by several professional societies for his contributions to patient centered care in several countries. His latest book is called Biohacking Your Genes.
Here he and Dawson discuss:
Simple health hacks you can do yourself
The importance of positivity
The truth about stress
Why genes are typical of an entire species, not an individual
Lifestyle research and statistics
Natural remedies
Support from food / diet
To learn more about Dr. Paul's work and books: https://skininyourgameblog.drsharadpaul.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #gene #nutrition #genetics #skin

May 15, 2025 • 47min
Uplift Human Consciousness: Shakti Durga and Dawson Church in Conversation
Shakti Durga is a spiritual teacher, healer, author, sacred musician, and founder of transformative initiatives that uplift human consciousness and create inner peace. She established the charities Shanti Mission and The Wellbeing Initiative to foster spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical well-being. She has written five transformational books and produced numerous spiritual music and mantra albums. Before embarking on her spiritual vocation, she was a practicing Trial Attorney. She resides in New South Wales, Australia and teaches world-wide.
Here she and Dawson discuss:
How meditation evolves you
Questioning, are we moving into the Age of Aquarius?
Looking back 100 years, you see a great change
Contrast and free will
Developing an inner spaciousness
Feeling content in our own being and thinking about others
What can you do to give back?
Visioning, non attachment, and surrender
Processing collective trauma
Practices that can bring us into elevated states
The energy of the people around us and how that can affect us
Releasing energy that isn’t yours through the breath
How do we find our highest energy?
Breathing into the heart, contemplating love and compassion
For more about the work of Shakti Durga: https://shaktidurga.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
And to order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #consciousness

May 8, 2025 • 48min
Spiritual Intelligence with Dr. Dawson Church
High Energy Health host, Dawson Church, PhD, just released his latest book, Spiritual Intelligence. The book reveals the breakthrough science behind Spiritual Intelligence... how your thoughts, emotions, and beliefs literally shape your brain and gene expression. You’ll discover how to activate your brain’s Enlightenment Network, reduce stress hormones like cortisol, and rewire your neural pathways for joy, resilience, and self-transcendence. Drawing from the latest neuroscience, peak states research, and personal practice, Dawson shows how simple daily actions like mindfulness, meditation, and EFT can lead to extraordinary mental clarity, emotional balance, and even reverse aging in the brain.
In this solo episode, he shares:
The unhappiness of his early journey
How many of us learned the biochemistry of stress even before we were born
About the stress hormone cortisol
Why stress is epigenetic, creating molecules like adrenaline and cortisol
MRI studies have now mapped the brain circuits active in long term meditators
“The Enlightenment Network”
How to dig ourselves out of the pit of stress
Ways we can stimulate the neural bundles of the Enlightenment Network so they grow
How Spiritual Intelligence changes your every day life
Specifics on how Spiritual Intelligence enables you to meet challenges with wisdom and resilience
Find Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
And to order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #theenlightenmentnetwork

May 1, 2025 • 49min
Proof of Heaven: Eben Alexander and Dawson Church in Conversation
Eben Alexander, MD, was an academic neurosurgeon for over 25 years, including 15 years at the Brigham & Women’s Hospital, Children’s Hospital, and Harvard Medical School in Boston. In 2008, he experienced a transcendental Near-Death Experience (NDE) during a week-long coma from an inexplicable brain infection that completely transformed his worldview. A pioneering scientist and modern thought leader in the emerging science that acknowledges the primacy of consciousness in the universe, he is the author of the New York Times #1 bestseller Proof of Heaven, The Map of Heaven and Living in a Mindful Universe.
Here he and Dawson discuss:
Dr. Alexander's story
Binaural beats
Remote viewing and precognition
Shedding baggage with our soul group between lifetimes
Soul agreements
The life review as from the perspective of everyone involved
The Golden Rule: written into the fabric of the universe
The link between intuition and meditation
Releasing suppressed emotions
Trusting in the universe and increased positive emotions
To learn more about Dr. Eben Alexander: https://ebenalexander.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
And to order Dawson's newest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #neardeath #lifereview #proofofheaven