

James Rodgers: Rethinking Workplace Diversity for the Future
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and James Rodgers discuss:
- Evolution and confusion surrounding DEI in the workplace
- Human nature’s role in shaping workplace dynamics
- AI and automation as the next diversity challenge
- Managing generational differences in the workforce
Key Takeaways:
- DEI has repeatedly risen and fallen as activists and organizations redefine it, creating confusion over its true purpose.
- The next diversity challenge extends beyond human differences to integrating AI, robotics, and automation into the workforce.
- Instead of hiring based on identity markers like race or gender, leaders should prioritize missing perspectives that drive innovation and problem-solving.
- Effectively managing generational differences requires direct engagement with individuals rather than relying on broad assumptions about their work ethics or expectations.
"Forty years ago, the new reality was that there was going to be a new mix of human beings in the workplace. Now, the new reality is that there is going to be a mix of humans and non-human entities in the workplace." — James Rodgers
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Episode References:
Behind The Human with Marc Champagne: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-human-with-marc-champagne/id1342231432
About James Rodgers: Dr. James O. Rodgers, known as “The Diversity Coach,” has spent 35+ years pioneering diversity management as a core enterprise discipline. Recognized as the #1 thought leader in the field, his books Managing Differently and Diversity Training That Generates Real Change are used in MBA programs and corporate initiatives worldwide. By blending sound management principles with practical diversity strategies, he emphasizes simplicity, pragmatism, and sustainability. He also coaches C-suite executives and directs the Executive Academy of ITSMF, preparing leaders of color for a changing world.
Connect with James Rodgers:
Website: http://jamesorodgers.com/
Email: jora@thediversitycoach.com
Book: https://www.amazon.com/stores/James-O.-Rodgers/author/B001K7Y9WC
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesorodgers/ & https://www.linkedin.com/company/51680091/admin/dashboard/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/james.rodgers.14661261/ & https://www.facebook.com/epiphanythebooks/
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