Reihan Salam, writer and president of the Manhattan Institute, shares insights on identity and immigration rooted in his Brooklyn upbringing. He discusses how legal immigration enriches cities and the importance of cultural assimilation. The conversation critiques victimhood culture and emphasizes the need for a cohesive American identity amidst diversity. Reihan also reflects on meritocracy, the evolution of political beliefs, and the balance between individualism and social democracy. His engaging anecdotes shed light on how personal narratives shape political landscapes.
The podcast highlights the tension between maintaining cultural identity and fostering societal cohesion amid rising immigration and identity politics.
A personal reflection on mentorship reveals how early engagement with ideas can profoundly shape one's intellectual journey and perspectives.
Deep dives
Health Update and Reflection
The speaker discusses a recent visit to a pulmonologist, which revealed that, contrary to long-held concerns, their lungs are in good condition. The main health issue identified was sinus drip, which has been aggravating existing bronchial problems. This newfound knowledge brings relief, and the doctor recommended simple nasal sprays and rinses to manage symptoms. The conversation touches upon personal health challenges, humorously noting the ongoing theme of self-care amidst life’s complexities.
Upcoming Guests and Changing Conversations
Exciting plans are shared regarding future podcast guests, including notable figures from various backgrounds. The speaker emphasizes a desire to shift focus away from politics for a while, highlighting a collective fatigue surrounding political discussions. This response is further illustrated by the mention of declining ratings for certain news outlets, suggesting a broader societal desire for a break from political tension. The lineup of guests proposes conversations around cultural and social topics, hinting at a deeper exploration of human experiences beyond politics.
Friendship and Intellectual Growth
The guest reflects on their history with the speaker, expressing immense gratitude for being introduced to the world of ideas through their writings. They recount the development of their intellectual perspectives during formative years, crediting early exposure to thoughtful discourse. Through their interaction and correspondence, they discovered a sense of community that spurred their own intellectual journey. This deeply personal recounting underscores the importance of mentorship and the transformative power of engagement with ideas.
The Complexities of Immigration and Identity
A nuanced discussion arises regarding immigration and cultural identity, where both speakers reflect on their backgrounds and the implications of growing up in diverse environments. They explore the balance between maintaining one's cultural heritage while assimilating into a broader societal narrative, voicing concerns over the current discourse surrounding identity politics. The importance of cultural self-confidence and the potential fragility of societal cohesion is highlighted, particularly in relation to immigration rates and societal changes. They stress the need for an overarching narrative that encourages unity without dismissing the value of individual identities.
Reihan is a writer and the president of the Manhattan Institute. Before that he was the executive editor of National Review and worked at publications as varied as the NYT, The Atlantic, National Affairs, Slate, CNN, NBC News, and Vice. He’s the author of Melting Pot or Civil War? and Grand New Party — a 2008 book he co-wrote with Ross Douthat that pushed a policy program for a GOP connected to the working class. He was also my very first assistant on the Daily Dish, editing the Letters page, over two decades ago.
For two clips of our convo — on finding “Americanness” out of immigrant diversity, and Trump vs the education system — head to our YouTube page.
Other topics: Reihan’s upbringing in Brooklyn; his immigrant parents (who both worked two jobs) and his older sisters from Bangladesh; how cities are enlivened by legal immigration; the formative role of TNR and the Dish for a young Reihan; the role of reader dissent in blogging; epistemic humility; Burke; Oakeshott; how outsiders often observe subcultures more accurately; the self-confidence of assimilation; Arthur Schlesinger’s The Disuniting of America; meritocracy; the PC movement of the early ‘90s; marriage equality; gay assimilation; victimhood culture and its self-harm; the love of one’s homeland; Orwell; Thatcher’s mature view of trade-offs and “vigorous virtues”; Bill Clinton; Obama’s view of red states and blue states; the importance of storytelling in politics; Trump’s iconic images in 2024; his trans ads; his multiracial coalition; the self-flagellation of woke whites; John Oliver and Jon Stewart; Seth Moulton and the woke backlash; how Harris might have won by acknowledging 2020 overreach; Eric Kaufmann and sacralization of victim groups; The 1619 Project; the failure of blue city governance; Reagan Democrats and Trump Democrats; the indoctrination in higher ed; the government’s role in curriculum; DEI bureaucracy; SCOTUS vs affirmative action; the American Rescue Plan and inflation; elite disconnect from higher prices and higher migration; October 7, Zionism; and the ordeal of consciousness.
Browse the Dishcast archive for an episode you might enjoy (the first 102 are free in their entirety — subscribe to get everything else). Coming up: David Greenberg on John Lewis and the Civil Rights Movement, Adam Kirsch on his book On Settler Colonialism, Brianna Wu on trans lives and politics, Mary Matalin on anything but politics, Christine Rosen on humanness in a digital world, and John Gray in the new year on the state of liberal democracy. Please send any guest recs, dissents, and other comments to dish@andrewsullivan.com.
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