The Way Out Is In

Joanna Macy’s Message of Hope

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Jul 21, 2025
In this reflective conversation, Joanna Macy, a renowned scholar in Buddhism and deep ecology, shares her profound insights on facing the ecological and social crises of our time. She emphasizes the teachings of Thich Nhat Hanh, discussing how joy and grief coexist in our lives. Joanna also highlights the importance of presence, mindfulness, and embracing impermanence. Through her personal stories and experiences, she offers a vision of hope, urging connection with the Earth and the transformative power of confronting both suffering and beauty.
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INSIGHT

Embrace Grief and Joy Together

  • Joanna Macy embraces grief alongside joy, allowing a fuller emotional experience.
  • Accepting all pain without picking and choosing expands the heart profoundly, as taught by Thich Nhat Hanh.
ANECDOTE

Meeting Thich Nhat Hanh at UN

  • Joanna describes meeting Thich Nhat Hanh at a UN disarmament session where he humbly read a poem publicly for the first time.
  • This moment encapsulated his Bodhisattva heart and his commitment to peace and justice.
ANECDOTE

Thay’s Humble Presence

  • Brother Phap Huu recounts a moment when Thich Nhat Hanh gently stopped him from clearing a path, showing humility and presence.
  • Thay’s presence alone naturally opened the way, illustrating power beyond words.
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