The Lawfare Podcast

Rational Security: The “Video Killed the Podcast Star” Edition

Nov 13, 2025
In this discussion, Natalie Orpett, Lawfare's executive editor, provides insights on the ongoing government shutdown and its implications for Democrats. Molly Roberts analyzes Trump's recent pardons for associates linked to the 2020 election, questioning their potential impact on future elections. Eric Columbus weighs in on the political dynamics within the Senate that led to the shutdown resolution. The group also tackles the consequences of politically charged prosecutions and their chilling effects on the legal landscape.
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INSIGHT

Senate Moderates Prioritize Institutional Stability

  • Senate moderates broke the shutdown stalemate to protect institutional norms like the filibuster and functioning governance.
  • That choice reflects senators' unique incentive to preserve long-term Senate power over short-term partisan wins.
INSIGHT

Shutdown Hurt Democrats' Governing Brand

  • The shutdown's political payoff for Democrats was limited because their voters care about competent governance and were hurt by service disruptions.
  • The deal did secure SNAP funding through the fiscal year, removing a key hostage for future fights.
ADVICE

Read Appropriations Text Before Voting

  • Watch appropriation language carefully; hidden provisions can create costly retroactive liabilities for the Treasury.
  • Don’t vote on large bills without staff review to avoid unintentionally empowering politically motivated claims.
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