Anyone looking for motivation—and learning how to get out of their own way—needs to listen to this enlightening episode with guest Steve Magness, a renowned performance expert, coach, and author, whose just-published book is Win the Inside Game. Along with hosts Sarah Bowen Shea and Coach Liz Waterstraat, Steve details:

-making the shift from “I like to run” to “I am a runner”;

-why + how we self-sabotage;

-the importance of intrinsic motivation + competency;

-how to create more of a sense of play in your running; and,

-the importance of “dabbling” in a variety of pursuits.

It probably won’t come as a surprise that host Sarah recounts recent pickleball pursuits before guest-Steve joins around 04:32.

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Steve Magness on How to Perform + Flourish