
DarkHorse Podcast The Washington State of Science: The 309th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
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Jan 17, 2026 Dive into discussions on the tension between science and politics, as Governor Bob Ferguson champions a return to 'science' in vaccine schedules. Explore the conservative changes aligning U.S. childhood vaccine recommendations with those of European countries. Unpack the complexities of biological sex and athletic advantage, sparked by recent political discourse. The conversation also touches on Broadway casting choices, notably Dylan Mulvaney as Anne Boleyn, and pays tribute to the late Scott Adams, reflecting on his evolving views on vaccines.
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Scientism Versus Scientific Practice
- Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying argue Governor Bob Ferguson confuses science with scientism when defending the old vaccine schedule.
- They say aligning U.S. childhood vaccines with peer nations is conservative and evidence-driven.
CDC Schedule Realignment Is Conservative
- The HHS assessment recommended trimming non-consensus vaccines and keeping a conservative core schedule for ten diseases.
- Heather and Bret emphasize the change allows parental choice and aligns with healthier peer nations.
Apply Analysis, Not Team-Based Reflexes
- Demand analytic thinking instead of reflexive partisan opposition when evaluating public-health policy.
- Avoid treating policy disagreements as automatic moral failures; examine evidence instead.
