The Washington State of Science: The 309th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
DarkHorse Podcast
Partisanship distorts vaccine debate
Bret and Heather discuss how party allegiance fuels reflexive positions on vaccines and public health.
On this, our 309th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss science and scientism, experts and expertise. Washington state Governor Bob Ferguson objects to the reduction in the Childhood Vaccine Schedule, and promises to bring “science” back to the state. In fact, the new recommendations are putting the U.S. more in line with what European countries recommend, and are quite conservative. Also, while Ferguson was the WA Attorney General, he imposed and enforced Covid vaccine mandates; many people lost their jobs and their livelihoods. Also in Washington: Brandi Kruse outs Democratic majority leader Jamie Pedersen as being unclear about the nature of male and female (or unwilling to say what he knows). On Broadway, Dylan Mulvaney, a male, will be playing Anne Boleyn, one of the most famous and influential women in history. Finally: words in honor and memory of Scott Adams.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Governor Ferguson: https://x.com/govbobferguson/status/2011482561206231340
HHS Immunization Assessment: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/assessment-of-the-us-childhood-and-adolescent-immunization-schedule-compared-to-other-countries.pdf
New vaccine guideline summary: https://www.hhs.gov/childhood-immunization-schedule/index.html
Hanson v Ferguson: https://www.silentmajorityfoundation.org/medicalfreedom
Kruse takes on Pedersen: https://x.com/BrandiKruse/status/2010068851858518456
Mulvaney to play Anne Boleyn: https://www.iheartradiobroadway.com/content/2026-01-16-six-welcomes-new-queens-on-february-16/
Scott Adams: https://x.com/dawnsmission/status/2011123367794118822
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