Men Talking Mindfulness: Mental, Physical, and Emotional Health for Leaders Under Pressure "Doc" Shauna Springer, MD: A deep dive into Moral Injury and what to do about it.
In this episode of Men Talking Mindfulness, we welcome back Dr. Shauna “Doc” Springer, a globally recognized expert on psychological trauma, military transition, and close relationships. Known as a trusted Doc to our nation's military warfighters, her insights have shaped trauma recovery approaches and have been sought by renowned platforms from CNN to Psychology Today. Previously, we discussed Men and Therapy. This time, we pivot our focus to a profound and deeply impactful topic: Moral Injury. As the author of acclaimed books like 'WARRIOR: How to Support Those Who Protect Us' and co-author of 'BEYOND THE MILITARY: A Leader’s Handbook for Warrior Reintegration', Doc Springer is uniquely positioned to guide us through the complexities of moral wounds, often suffered by those who face situations that clash with their ethical or moral beliefs. With her two decades of experience at the extremities of human experience, we'll explore the nuances of moral injury, its effects on individuals and communities, and the path to healing and reconciliation. Through the lens of Doc Springer's extensive work with our nation's defenders and her innovative approach combining biological and psychological interventions, this conversation promises deep introspection, enlightenment, and understanding. Join us for a journey into the heart of moral consciousness, its fractures, and the resilient spirit that seeks to mend it. Whether you're a veteran, a loved one, or someone who seeks to understand the depths of human experience, this episode offers a beacon of insight and hope.
Links:The Shot (movie mentioned by Shauna): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTwoKMUBJFA
Doc's site: https://www.shaunaspringer.com
Ketamine is not God, written by Doc: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/free-range-psychology/202306/ketamine-is-not-god
The Stella Center: https://stellacenter.com/
Warrior Book: https://www.amazon.com/WARRIOR-How-Support-Those-Protect/dp/1736824406/
Relentless Courage Book: https://www.amazon.com/Relentless-Courage-Winning-Against-Frontline/dp/B0CBL6GQSN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=USSR08SPJIKC&keywords=relentless+courage&qid=1696453129&s=books&sprefix=relentless+courage%2Cstripbooks%2C124&sr=1-1
Time Stamps: (00:01:02) The realm of moral injury.
(00:05:10) Moral injury and friendship.
(00:09:26) Defining moral injury.
(00:13:30) Expanding understanding of moral injury.
(00:19:14) A clear moral code.
(00:23:30) Warrior code and trust.
(00:26:13) Moral injury in Vietnam war.
(00:30:39) Serious moral injuries in war.
(00:33:10) Moral injury and first responders.
(00:37:13) Treating the biological injury.
(00:43:21) Shame and suicidal thinking.
(00:45:43) Betrayal and moral injury.
(00:49:19) Creating awareness and healing.
(00:53:12) Biological therapies and ketamine.
(00:57:44) Ketamine is not God.
(01:01:20) Therapist attachment and dangers.
(01:05:10) Mindfulness as a way of living.
(01:09:41) Biological treatment and psychological insights.
(01:14:23) Warrior master guide for mental wellness.
(01:16:50) Reviews and book success.
(01:21:33) Belief in what you're doing.
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