210: Forget Superstars—Unlock the Collective Edge | Dr. Colin M. Fisher

Sep 2, 2025

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The best teams aren’t just about skill, they’re built on clarity, trust, and the science of group dynamics.

In this episode of The Learn-It-All Podcast, Damon welcomes group dynamics expert Dr. Colin M. Fisher, professor at University College London and author of the new book The Collective Edge. Drawing on remarkable stories from the worlds of jazz, sports, and business, Colin reveals the hidden psychology that keeps teams stuck, and the practical steps leaders can take to foster high-performing, resilient groups. From his unique background as a professional jazz musician to his groundbreaking research on team behavior, Colin removes the myths around teamwork and shares how anyone, from managers to family members, can build better groups, drive innovation, and create a true sense of belonging.

Get ready for actionable insights you can use to launch teams with purpose, set goals that actually unite people, and transform both work and personal relationships.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

Why most teams get group purpose wrong, and how to launch with clarity and connection
The underlying psychology that drives in-group favoritism and how to overcome it for bigger impact
The surprising science behind “collective intelligence”, including what truly predicts team success
How to set vivid, powerful goals that galvanize teams (and bust the myth of “just working hard”)
Why structure matters more than process, and how misdiagnosing this derails even talented groups
How social sensitivity and psychological safety fuel innovation, motivation, and creative improvisation

Timestamps:

00:00 – The real reason teams fail: hidden group dynamics

01:43 – Why today’s problems require collective (not just individual) solutions

03:12 – Colin Fisher’s journey from jazz musician to group dynamics scholar

05:57 – The “click” moment in group improvisation, and why it matters

07:52 – Core message of The Collective Edge and its target audience

11:04 – Are teams or individuals behind today’s breakthroughs? Surprising research results

13:54 – The hidden teams behind famous leaders, inventors, and tech “geniuses”

15:53 – The #1 mistake founders make when launching teams

18:39 – What a “strong launch” looks like (and why daily rituals matter)

21:08 – Goal clarity: making “vivid” goals that truly align teams

24:15 – How JFK and Bill Gates set goals that sparked genuine buy-in

27:43 – Social sensitivity: the ultimate predictor of team performance

30:28 – How to spot and develop social sensitivity in hiring and team building

33:44 – Why starting with skills and perspectives matters most

35:25 – Designing high-impact tasks for authentic collaboration

38:19 – The real difference between psychological safety and autonomy

41:23 – Structure vs. process: how to rig the game in your team's favor

44:28 – Why sports and music teams get structure right (and business leaders rarely do)

45:06 – The longevity secrets of the Rolling Stones (and what one-hit-wonders miss)

50:38 – Mythbusting: Does diversity cause conflict?

52:10 – Mythbusting: Is competition always a motivator?

56:07 – Why trust falls are overrated, and what builds real collaboration

59:02 – Final takeaway: build for healthy groups, not just high-performing individuals

About Colin M. Fisher

Colin M. Fisher is a professor at University College London and a leading researcher in group and team dynamics, fascinated by how people improvise, collaborate, and build creative solutions in teams. Before academia, Colin was a professional jazz trumpet player, which shaped his understanding of group “flow” and improvisation across language, culture, and experience. Today, he works with organizations, writes for publications, and teaches leaders how to transform everyday groups into high-performing, psychologically safe teams. He’s the author of The Collective Edge, which synthesizes decades of research and real-world stories to help anyone build better groups anywhere.

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