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Episode 387 - Rich Diviney

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May 19, 2025
Rich Diviney, a retired U.S. Navy SEAL Commander and author, shares insights from his extensive military career. He discusses the importance of attributes over skills in predicting performance, especially under stress. Diviney introduces the DPO (duration/pathway/outcome) framework and explores how uncertainty can be practiced in sports and training. He emphasizes the role of humor and bonding in building team resilience, while also reflecting on the struggles of identity and purpose after service. Rich's blend of expertise and personal anecdotes makes for a compelling listen!
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INSIGHT

Attributes Over Skills

  • Rich Diviney separates skills (learned actions) from attributes (inherent qualities) and says attributes predict performance under stress.
  • Attributes show up most visibly during uncertainty, so selection should target qualities not just physical skills.
INSIGHT

DPO Explains Fear Levels

  • The brain tracks duration, pathway, and outcome to evaluate uncertainty and fear levels.
  • Missing one or more of these elements raises anxiety; filling them reduces it.
ADVICE

Use Moving Horizons To Generate Dopamine

  • Create a short, proximal horizon to convert vague overwhelm into a clear duration, pathway, and outcome (DPO).
  • Use that horizon repeatedly to generate dopamine rewards and stay motivated during extreme stress.
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