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Between Two Nerds: Cyber forces in Southeast Asia

Sep 30, 2024
Tom Uren, a specialist in cyber forces in Southeast Asia, joins The Grugq, a cybersecurity expert, to dive into the growing investments in cyber capabilities across the region. They discuss Indonesia's significant military shift towards cyber warfare and the contrasting approaches of Thailand and Indonesia. The conversation also highlights innovative training strategies to bolster cybersecurity against looming threats, like those from North Korea, and the bureaucratic hurdles in developing effective cyber forces, drawing lessons from global examples like Ukraine.
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Quick takeaways

  • Indonesia's establishment of a dedicated cyber force highlights regional competitiveness and responses to increasing cybersecurity threats in Southeast Asia.
  • There is ongoing debate about whether integrating cyber capabilities within existing military structures is preferable to forming separate cyber forces, given potential bureaucratic challenges.

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Indonesia's Cyber Force Establishment

Indonesia's decision to create a dedicated cyber force reflects a strategic response to growing regional cybersecurity threats. With a population of 250 million and a significant military presence, the establishment of such a force aims to enhance national cybersecurity following numerous breaches and disruptions of government services. Experts highlight that regional competitiveness drives nations to bolster their cyber capabilities, as evidenced by Thailand's similar move towards establishing a cyber command. This suggests that Indonesia's initiative is part of a broader trend among Southeast Asian countries to strengthen their cyber defenses by formalizing military structures dedicated to this domain.

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