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Peter May shares his journey from being a middle-class kid in the 50s to his strategic shift to investing and building companies. His focus on doing more than expected shaped his outlook on work and success.
Peter delves into his partnership with Nelson Peltz, highlighted by their philosophy of 'expenses down, sales up, cash is king.' Their journey from taking over Triangle Industries to strategic investing showcased their approach of constructive capitalism.
The duo's approach to constructive investment involved restructuring businesses they acquired to unlock potential. Their strategy of improving operations, adding value, and thinking long-term distinguished their method.
Peter discusses the strategic acquisition of National Can, marking one of their successful deals with Milken's financing. Their vision to expand National Can into a major industrial force exemplified their bold and forward-thinking investment strategy.
The podcast discusses the process of diversification and international expansion, focusing on a case study involving Coca-Cola and the development of can plants internationally. It highlights the shift from glass bottles to aluminum cans in the beverage industry and explores the strategic decision-making behind following Coke's expansion and building can plants around them. The discussion delves into the challenges faced in a changing market where customer consolidation pressures margins, leading to the importance of diversifying business operations.
The episode touches on Engage Philanthropy through a personal story of involvement with Sinai Health System, emphasizing the impact of investing in philanthropic endeavors beyond financial contributions. It underlines the significance of utilizing personal skills, experience, and time to drive meaningful change in philanthropic initiatives, showcasing a hands-on approach to problem-solving and restructuring organizations. Additionally, the conversation explores the notion of legacy, portraying the importance of instilling values in the next generation, emphasizing ethical imprints, and fostering a sense of social responsibility for creating a lasting impact.
In this episode of Big Shot, we're honored to host business mogul Peter May. But his path to managing more than $7 billion is not what you might expect. What started as a career as an accountant at the prestigious KPMG quickly became something much different once Peter crossed paths with Nelson Peltz, igniting a dynamic partnership that spanned decades. Together, they founded Triarc Companies and pioneered innovative funding strategies, revitalizing numerous struggling businesses. They eventually sold the company and founded Trian Partners, a multi-billion dollar investment firm. Peter's commitment to philanthropy extends beyond financial contributions, as he invests his time and expertise. Notably, his impactful work with Mount Sinai Health Systems and Operation Exodus showcases his dedication to making a difference. Join us as Peter generously imparts invaluable insights and practical wisdom applicable to all aspects of life.
In This Episode We Cover:
(07:28) What it was like growing up during the Cold War in Long Island
(12:12) How his father was a great role model
(14:33) Peter’s time at The University of Chicago
(16:25) How Peter was inspired by his father’s saying, “Do more than what’s expected of you”
(22:24) The Jewish value of education
(24:53) How Peter was able to avoid being drafted to Vietnam
(30:59) Getting started as an accountant at KPMG
(32:40) How Peter met Nelson Peltz
(34:24) The importance of adding value
(36:11) The origins of Home Depot
(38:16) How Peter and Nelson Peltz went into business together
(41:00) When Peter and Nelson took their company public
(44:25) What happened after Peter and Nelson sold Flagstaff foods
(49:20) Peter and Nelson’s funding strategy emerges
(50:42) How MPM group consulting got its start
(51:57) What constructive capitalism is
(54:10) How Peter and Nelson bought Triangle Industries
(1:00:29) How Peter and Nelson transformed Triangle and made it profitable
(1:03:18) The purchase of America Can and National Can
(1:17:03) The meaning of Nelson’s phrase “I’d rather be rich than right”
(1:18:53) Why Peter doesn’t look back much
(1:20:14) Why chutzpah is so quintessential to the Jewish entrepreneurial experience
(1:22:23) Why Peter doesn’t feel like he’s made it still
(1:23:30) About “engaged philanthropy” and how Peter helped turn around Mount Sinai Health
(1:30:15) Peter’s advice to the next generation
(1:33:26) About Operation Exodus
(1:36:33) Peter’s legacy—
Referenced:
Green tea benefits: https://www.firebellytea.com/blogs/all/green-tea-benefits
Firebelly Tea: https://www.firebellytea.com/
The University of Chicago: https://www.uchicago.edu/en
Pogroms: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/pogroms
Nelson Peltz: https://www.forbes.com/profile/nelson-peltz/
Arthur Anderson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen
KPMG: https://kpmg.com/
Emerson Radio: https://www.emersonradio.com/
Bernard Marcus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Marcus
Mike Milken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Milken
Saul Steinberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Steinberg
Victor Posner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Posner
Alcoa: https://www.alcoa.com/global/en/home/
Mount Sinai Health System: https://www.mountsinai.org/
Engaged philanthropy: https://engagedgiving.org/philosophy
Operation Exodus: https://operationexodususa.org/
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Where to find Peter May:
Mount Sinai Health: https://www.mountsinai.org/about/board-leadership/peter-may
Wendy’s: https://www.wendys.com/who-we-are/board-directors/peter-may
Where To Find Big Shot:
Website: https://www.bigshot.show/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bigshotpodcast
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bigshotshow
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bigshotshow/
Harley Finkelstein: https://twitter.com/harleyf
David Segal: https://twitter.com/tea_maverick
Production and Marketing: https://penname.co
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