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Breakdown: David Grusch on Rogan

Nov 23, 2023
David Grusch, UFO Whistleblower, appears on the Joe Rogan podcast, discussing unidentified objects' mysteries, origins of technological advancements, limitations of human-made craft, changing perception of UFO discussions, illegal document stealing, personal consequences and risks of speaking out.
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INSIGHT

Careful Distinction Between First- and Second-Hand

  • Grusch distinguishes between first-hand knowledge and second-hand reporting and repeatedly qualifies what he personally knows versus what he was told.
  • He signals he may have first-hand material he hopes to be cleared to discuss publicly in future.
ANECDOTE

Blocked After Reporting Crashed Materials

  • In fall 2019 someone from a program told Grusch they were working on crashed materials and urged him to report up the chain.
  • When Grusch pushed the gatekeepers, he says he received administrative refusals and was blocked from further access.
ANECDOTE

Early 20th-Century Retrievals Discussed

  • Grusch recounts a 1933 Italian retrieval he can discuss but notes some associated paperwork appears hoaxed or exploited later.
  • He estimates that object size at about 20 by 10 feet, but cautions his memory and classification limits his detail.
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