Elis made a bad decision the other day. And if you had a million guesses as to what that decision was then you won’t even get close, even when given the clue "Welsh culture". He's insistent it isn’t the outcome he wanted but John and Dave aren’t sure they believe him.

Quite frankly it’s one of the most baffling conversations ever had on this show.

Aside from regrettable choices there’s a potassium-rich Mad Dad that breaks new money making ground, Scatman John gets an unexpected amount of airtime, and Elis does a surprisingly good impression of a history teacher.

Remember to seek out some bonus content in the form of Saturday’s Bureau de Change of the Mind. That’s only available on your friend and mine BBC Sounds.

And if you want to get in contact with thoughts on anything other than the first ten minutes of this episode then it’s elisandjohn@bbc.co.uk or 07974 293 022 on WhatsApp.

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