863: Julie and Ryan Neale: Mother & Son Neurodiversity Advocacy on College Campus
Apr 8, 2024
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Julie and Ryan Neale, a mother-son duo, discuss neurodiversity advocacy on college campuses. They share their experiences with autism, ADHD, and anxiety, challenging cultural stereotypes. The conversation delves into family dynamics, self-acceptance, and the emotional roller coaster of supporting a neurodivergent child in college.
Advocating for neurodivergent students in college is crucial for creating inclusive spaces and support systems.
Parents of neurodivergent children must find a balance between support and independence, trusting in their child's journey.
Therapy and introspection can empower neurodivergent individuals to advocate for themselves and build supportive communities.
Deep dives
The Transition to College and Neurodiversity Advocacy
Navigating the transition to college, Ryan shares about the challenges of being expected to function as a 19-year-old in all aspects when his emotional regulation and executive functioning were at a younger level. He emphasizes the importance of seeking support and advocating for accommodations. Additionally, Ryan talks about his involvement in starting a neurodiversity initiative at UCLA, aiming to create a community for neurodivergent students and provide inclusive spaces.
Julie's Experience Sending Ryan to College
Julie reflects on the emotional rollercoaster of dropping Ryan off at college, feeling a mix of pride and fear. She discusses her initial struggles with wanting to control and protect him but realizing the need to trust in his journey. Julie highlights the importance of recalibrating her internal alarm system and finding a balance between support and allowing Ryan to navigate his newfound independence.
Advocating for Neurodiversity and Community Building
Ryan shares his journey of launching a neurodiversity initiative at UCLA, filling a gap in providing support and community for neurodivergent students. He discusses the need for inclusion and equity, highlighting the unique challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals. Ryan envisions a future with robust peer mentoring programs, webinars, and legislative consultation, aiming to nurture acceptance and support for neurodiversity.
The Role of Metacognition in Ryan's Development
Ryan attributes his ability to articulate complex ideas to years of therapy and deep introspection, fostering his metacognitive skills. He compares his experiences to building a computer from scratch, gaining a deeper understanding of himself and societal norms through his neurodivergent journey. Ryan's unique perspective and keen awareness facilitate advocacy and community building efforts in the neurodiversity space.
Parental Reflections and Lessons Learned
Julie reflects on her evolving role as a parent to a neurodivergent child, acknowledging the challenges of letting go and recalibrating her support approach. She shares insights gained from therapy sessions and collaborative efforts with Ryan, highlighting the importance of self-care and boundary setting. Julie emphasizes the need for tailored support and understanding in parenting neurodivergent children, advocating for inclusive and supportive environments.
Julie Neale is a life and leadership coach, mom to two neurodivergent boys, and creator of Mother’s Quest, the Mother’s Quest Podcast, and the Live Your EPIC Year Planner. Started in 2016, Mother’s Quest provides inspiration, coaching, and community for mothers who want to live their version of an E.P.I.C. life while raising their children. At the age of 50, Julie received a diagnosis of ADHD, realizing that she is also neurodivergent. The diagnosis explained a lot and has provided a window for her to understand better what it’s like for her children to embrace their differences while finding strategies to address the challenges. This year, Julie is serving on the UCLA Parents' Council. She looks forward to working alongside her son Ryan, from a parent perspective, to support neurodivergent students and their families at UCLA.
Ryan Neale is a neurodivergent sophomore at UCLA, planning to double major in Communication and Disability Studies with a minor in Film Studies. He is part of the College Scholars Program at UCLA and recently was selected as part of the 2023 Chancellor's Leadership Program cohort. He is passionate about neurodiversity advocacy and sharing his own experiences to pave the way for others. He is currently a staff member at the Bruin Resource Center, where he is a student lead on a new campus-wide neurodiversity initiative to make UCLA more inclusive for students like him. This summer, he served on staff for the Stanford Neurodiversity Project - Research, Education, and Advocacy Camp for high schoolers wanting to create neurodiversity advocacy projects. He was also a speaker at the 2021 Stanford Neurodiversity Summit and has been a guest host on the Mother’s Quest Podcast. Ryan was diagnosed with autism at the age of 18 months old and also identifies with ADHD and anxiety.
April is Autism Awareness Month. April 2nd is Autism Awareness Day. I was so honored to have Ryan and Julie here to talk about neurodiversity, including autism, and all that Ryan is doing to build inclusive spaces for kids like him on college campuses.
Listen in to hear Ryan and Julie share:
Ryan’s optimism around the neurodiversity movement, esp in collegiate environments
Ryan’s autism diagnosis at 18 months and his experience of learning of his diagnosis at age 13
Ryan’s disconnection from his diagnosis given his propensity for rich connections
How Julie was diagnosed with ADHD when going through menopause
The difference in the ways Ryan and Julie accepted and integrated their respective diagnoses
What Ryan’s transition into college life has been like
How Ryan has leaped into neurodivergence advocacy at UCLA