In this episode, Wendy speaks with psychologist and author Daniel Goleman. Dan has been fostering and contributing to contemplative science since the very early days of the conversation between science and Buddhism, and his long experience with meditation helped shape his notable work on emotional intelligence. This conversation covers many topics, including:

• his interest in both Western and Asian systems of mind;
• his relationship with the Dalai Lama and involvement in Mind & Life dialogues;
• how the conversation between science and Buddhism has influenced both sides;
• when emotions become "destructive;"
• the birth of contemplative science;
• social emotional learning (SEL) in education;
• links between emotional intelligence and contemplative science;
• "McMindfulness" and the varying goals of practice;
• nonconceptual states and dissolving the self;
• navigating the complexities of science communication;
• the latest research on emotional intelligence in organizations;
• how awareness is (or isn't) showing up in the world;
• and how he relates to meditation now.

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