
 The Jim Rutt Show
 The Jim Rutt Show EP 323 Pablos Holman on Deep Tech
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 Sep 9, 2025  Pablos Holman is a hacker, inventor, and bestselling author known for his work with Blue Origin and impact inventions like mosquito-killing lasers. In a lively discussion, he highlights the difference between deep and shallow tech, emphasizing the need for computational modeling in crisis policymaking. Holman dives into energy topics, exploring innovative nuclear technologies and critiques of Germany's energy policies. He also advocates for equitable energy access and revolutionary on-demand production methods in the apparel industry, showcasing the transformative potential of technology. 
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Deep Tech Versus Shallow Tech
- Shallow tech equals the software-heavy industries dominating headlines, not all technology.
- Deep tech applies computational and startup methods to energy, manufacturing, shipping and other trillion-dollar sectors.
Supermodels Turn Design Into Cheap Iteration
- Massive compute enables 'supermodels' to simulate complex systems beyond chatbots.
- Simulations let you run thousands of experiments in software, shrinking physical iteration costs drastically.
Using Simulations To Beat Diseases
- Intellectual Ventures built epidemiological models to optimize interventions for malaria, Ebola and polio.
- Models enabled ring vaccination and targeted campaigns that cut fatalities by orders of magnitude in subsequent outbreaks.




