Jocko Podcast 513: Be Big in the Little Things. Lessons from a Hero. With Ryan Manion
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Nov 5, 2025 
Ryan Manion, CEO of the Travis Manion Foundation and author, shares heartfelt insights about her brother, Marine Silver Star recipient Travis Manion. She recounts the foundation's growth and its mission of character education through veterans, emphasizing how small acts of kindness build a legacy. Ryan also discusses her inspiration for a children's book based on Travis's lessons, making complex stories accessible. With memorable anecdotes, she highlights the ethos 'If Not Me, Then Who?' as a call to action for youth.
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The Eagles Game Moment That Defined A Motto
- At a pre-deployment Eagles game Travis responded to a friend's joke with "If not me, then who."
- That phrase became a defining moment and core motto for his life and legacy.
From Local Memorial To Veteran-Led National Organization
- The Travis Manion Foundation arose organically from public donations after Travis's death and evolved into a national VSO.
- Ryan credits hiring smart people and veterans-led programs for scaling impact across chapters.
Use Veterans To Teach Character Locally
- Use veterans as character mentors to teach kids leadership and service in local communities.
- Run programs where vets teach youth to be servant leaders regardless of military aspirations.
