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This week we talk to Justin Sullivan from New Model Army

Justin Sullivan is an English singer and songwriter. He is the frontman and lyricist of the British rock band New Model Army, which he formed in 1980 together with drummer Robert Heaton and bassist Stuart Morrow in their hometown of Bradford, Yorkshire. In the early 1980s he performed under the stage name of "Slade the Leveller". Their latest record is called Between Dog and Wold released in 2013.
The New Model Army record, Thunder and Consolation, is one of our favorite records ever. Eric says it is in his top 5 of all time.

In This Interview Justin and I Discuss...

The One You Feed parable.
Whether we really live by our values.
How money doesn't make us happy but we still chase it
That human systems mimic nature.
New Model Army songs about the weather.
Nature vs. Nurture
How much people can actually change.
How education helps make the world more interesting and enjoyable.
The inevitability of change.
How it's always the ones that want to be saved that do all of the saving.

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