On The Gist, MSNBC cutting Trump's speech short.
In the interview, writer Katy Lederer is here to talk with Mike about Greta Thunberg, why she's such a force, and if she will bring about any change. Lederer's latest piece on Thunberg is "Can They Read," in n+1.
In the Spiel, whistleblowing and the Maguire hearing.
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