Psychoanalyst Adam Phillips discusses his new book 'On Giving Up', exploring topics such as the relation between literature and psychoanalysis, the ambiguity of 'giving up', addiction as a flight from pleasure, the influence of psychoanalysis on writing, narrow attention vs. wide attention, and the concept of the fascist state of mind.
Giving up can be both a resolution and a cultural pressure, prompting a reassessment of our perspectives on sacrifice and the worth of life.
Removing certain habits or addictions from our lives can lead to more pleasure and satisfaction, with sacrifices offering the potential for deferred but greater pleasures.
Deep dives
The Ambiguity of Giving Up
The podcast discusses the concept of giving up, exploring the ambiguity of the phrase and its implications. It delves into the internal resolutions and external pressures to give up certain things in order to attain the lives we desire. The speaker also contemplates the fear and desire to give up, questioning the cultural assumption that life is always worth living. The episode suggests the need to reassess our perspectives on giving up and our understanding of sacrifice.
The Pleasure of Sacrifice
The podcast examines the idea of sacrifices and the pleasure associated with removing certain things from our lives. It explores the potential for more pleasure in life when we give up certain habits or addictions that may be detrimental to our well-being. The discussion delves into the concept of deferred pleasure and the satisfaction that comes from mastering desires. It also touches on the complex motivations behind sacrifices and the implicit expectation of reward or return on investment.
The Complexity of Addiction
The episode explores addiction as a flight from pleasure, as well as a coping mechanism to escape pain. It highlights the underlying self-cure aspect of addiction, where individuals seek control or rely on substances or behaviors that organize their wants and needs. The speaker emphasizes that addictions are not nourishing and create self-starvation. The complexity of addictive behaviors is attributed to diverse desires, attempts to simplify oneself, and the struggle to bear the contested desires within.
Psychoanalysis and Literature
The podcast touches on the relationship between psychoanalysis and literature. The guest speaker, a psychoanalyst and writer, discusses how literature and psychoanalysis overlap in their exploration of human nature and the complexities of desires. He highlights the influence of cultural and historical contexts on psychoanalysis, addressing the specific concerns and conflicts of its early proponents. The conversation also reflects on the role of literature in examining how people make sense of their lives and the potential for both disciplines to contribute to self-reflection and understanding.
On this week’s Book Club my guest is the writer and psychoanalyst Adam Phillips, whose new book is On Giving Up. He tells me how literature relates to psychoanalysis, why censorship makes life possible, and what Freud got wrong.
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