There aren’t many dedicated space economists out there, but today we’re lucky enough to be joined by one. This week’s Pathfinder guest is Pierre Lionnet, Research and Managing Director at Eurospace, who shares his critical and thought-provoking insights into the space economy. Pierre, with a background in engineering and finance, has spent 30 years analyzing and providing data-driven perspectives for the space industry. He’s also not afraid to ruffle feathers or challenge conventional thinking with his views.
Eurospace, a non-profit trade association, focuses on delivering analytics and independent assessments to its members. Our conversation delves into Pierre's critical perspective on the space economy and the industry's current dynamics. We also explore:
- Forecasting the economy over the last decade and potential overestimations
- Impact of increased mass in orbit
- General misconceptions about the industry
- Sustainability of the current startup environment
- Future of private investment and commercialization in space
And much more...
• Chapters •
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - The Space Economist
02:50 - Space industry over 30 years
04:56 - What sparked Pierre's passion for space economics
07:39 - Previous economists before Pierre
10:43 - Pierre's team at Eurospace
11:15 - Common misconceptions about the industry
13:36 - Concerning and interesting trends in the industry
18:53 - How big is the industry today?
21:43 - Gaps in estimates
25:46 - Negative effects of inaccurate estimates
28:26 - Current view on the startup market and future predictions
34:28 - US vs European startup ecosystem
35:32 - How Pierre would invest his capital
38:35 - Challenges of commercialization and launch costs
44:45 - Is there a viable business model around Starlink?
48:14 - Business case for the Moon
50:31 - What causes a break in interest and passion in investors?
55:27 - Overlooked or undervalued areas of the market
58:08 - What startup would Pierre work at if he had to choose one?
01:00:57 - Space leaders that Pierre follows
01:04:02 - Advice for making sure the space economy continues to grow in the right way
01:06:41 - What does Pierre do for fun?
• Show notes •
Eurospace website — https://eurospace.org/
Pierre’s socials — https://twitter.com/LionnetPierre
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