Trump’s Presidential Immunity Defense with Saraphin Dhanani and Benjamin Wittes
Sep 18, 2023
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Saraphin Dhanani and Benjamin Wittes discuss Trump's expected motion to dismiss the Jan. 6 case based on presidential immunity. They explore the defense strategy, potential counterarguments, and the usefulness of the immunity defense. They also analyze the DOJ's response, Trump's trial strategies, and the appeal process in a criminal trial.
Former President Donald Trump is expected to file a motion to dismiss the January 6th case against him based on a theory of presidential immunity, arguing that he is immune from criminal prosecution for actions related to his official duties.
The presidential immunity defense is challenging, but not implausible; Trump's lawyers must convince the court that immunity is as broad as it is in the civil context and that the alleged conduct falls within the outer perimeter of his Article II powers.
Deep dives
Trump's Presidential Immunity Defense
Former President Donald Trump is expected to file a motion to dismiss the January 6th case against him based on a theory of presidential immunity. This defense argues that the president is immune from criminal prosecution for actions related to their official duties. Trump's lawyers may cite the case of Nixon v. Fitzgerald, where the Supreme Court held that a former president has absolute immunity for civil damages within the outer perimeter of their Article II powers. The defense may argue that this privilege of immunity should extend to criminal matters as well. Additionally, they may use a separation of powers argument, claiming that Congress cannot criminalize presidential conduct within the outer perimeter of their Article II powers. However, these arguments face several challenges. The conduct alleged in the indictment goes beyond the scope of Trump's Article II authority, including pressuring officials and inciting the riot. Moreover, previously, in the blasting game case, a judge rejected the presidential immunity argument in the civil context. The Department of Justice has also stated that a president's speech on a matter of public concern is not protected by absolute immunity if it incites imminent private violence. The prosecution can counter the immunity defense by arguing that the Constitution does not confer authority to the president for such acts, and that they fall under the category of high crimes and misdemeanors, which is within the realm of impeachment and criminal prosecution. While the presidential immunity defense may face an uphill battle, it presents a strategic opportunity for delay and could potentially be reviewed by higher courts.
Complicating Factors in the Defense
Trump's defense faces significant challenges and uncertainties. Despite the existence of some presidential immunity, the Supreme Court has never ruled on immunity in the criminal context. The Constitution explicitly allows for the prosecution of a former president for matters that give rise to impeachment, suggesting immunity is not absolute. Moreover, the conduct alleged in the indictment goes beyond the president's Article II powers and does not qualify as routine presidential business. The defense will have to demonstrate that immunity extends to actions like pressuring officials and attempting to overturn an election. The defense's argument may find some support among conservative judges, but Trump would need to convince the courts that immunity is as broad as in the civil context. This argument is also dependent on yet to be introduced evidence and could evolve during the trial. Nevertheless, the strategic value of the immunity defense lies in its potential to delay the trial through lengthy appellate battles.
Prosecution's Likely Counterarguments
The prosecution is expected to challenge the presidential immunity defense using several counterarguments. They can argue that the conduct alleged in the indictment is not within the president's official duties outlined in Article II, and thus does not qualify for immunity. The Constitution explicitly grants Congress the power to impeach and convict a president for high crimes and misdemeanors, including actions like defrauding the United States or conspiring against voting rights. The notion that these acts fall within the exclusive domain of another branch of government undermines the immunity claim. Additionally, the Department of Justice has stated that a president's speech on a matter of public concern does not have absolute immunity if it incites imminent private violence. Prosecutors can rely on this stance to undermine the immunity defense. Moreover, a 1974 Justice Department opinion argued that certain acts, such as bribery, fall outside the clear statement rule analysis, as they go against the Constitution's explicit provisions and the impeachment clause. By applying similar reasoning, prosecutors can assert that the acts alleged in the indictment are not protected by immunity. These counterarguments allow prosecutors to avoid the immunity question altogether and focus on the nature of the alleged actions.
Bottom Line on Trump's Presidential Immunity Defense
Trump's presidential immunity defense is a challenging but not implausible notion. To succeed, Trump's lawyers must convince the court that immunity is as broad as it is in the civil context, citing the Nixon v. Fitzgerald case. They would also need to overcome Judge Mehta's previous rejection of immunity in the blasting game case and prove that the alleged conduct falls within the outer perimeter of Trump's Article II powers. The defense's argument faces difficulties due to the expansive nature of the conduct alleged, extending beyond routine presidential business. However, the strategic value of the immunity defense lies in its potential to buy time through lengthy appellate battles. The issue of immunity is likely to be closely followed and could potentially provide an opportunity for the Supreme Court to weigh in on the extent of presidential immunity in the criminal context.
Some time soon, former President Donald Trump is expected to file a motion in U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan’s courtroom to dismiss the Jan. 6 case against him based on some theory of presidential immunity. In a recent piece for Lawfare, our very own Legal Fellow Saraphin Dhanani and Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes write, “The bottom line is that this defense is a bit of a moon shot for Trump, but it’s not a crazy moon shot.”
Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Saraphin and Ben to talk through their article, “The Trump Defense, Part II: The Presidential Immunity Gambit.” They discussed the general contours of the defense’s argument and strategy, the prosecution’s likely counterarguments, and all the murkiness and unknowns in between. They also talked about how, even if Judge Chutkan does not accept Trump’s immunity defense—and even if the appellate courts ultimately affirm her judgment on that score—the immunity defense could still be useful to the former president.