In New Zealand, the Internet at Its Worst

On The Gist, Senator Thom Tillis' op-ed, now with moral fiber!

In the interview, no one's ever had to wonder what was on tech journalist Kara Swisher's mind (she'll just tell you) and that includes the litany of Silicon Valley oligarchs she's interviewed. Swisher tells us how the modern world is very much shaped by company founders' personality quirks and blind spots, what government regulation of Google and Facebook should look like, and what women can do to get what they want in the workplace. Swisher is the co-founder of Recode and the host of its Recode Decode podcast.

In the Spiel, if you want to measure the ills that come with an increasingly connected world, look no farther than the shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand.

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