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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

EP204 Beyond PCAST: Phil Venables on the Future of Resilience and Leading Indicators

Dec 23, 2024
Phil Venables, CISO at Google Cloud, dives into the increasing obsession with resilience in cybersecurity, potentially sparked by the rise of ransomware. He discusses the PCAST report’s origins and stresses the importance of shifting from lagging to leading indicators for security. Venables introduces 'Cyber-Physical Modularity' as a key concept for enhancing critical infrastructure resilience. He also emphasizes rigorous stress testing and shares insights on overcoming challenges in implementing these strategies, suggesting that organizations can gain resilience benefits by leveraging Google Cloud.
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Quick takeaways

  • Organizations should prioritize transitioning to leading indicators for better predictive insights into their cybersecurity resilience and performance.
  • Learning from external incidents and near-misses is vital for organizations to enhance their cyber resilience and preparedness strategies.

Deep dives

Understanding Resilience in Cyber Security

Resilience in cyber security refers to an organization's ability to prepare for, respond to, and recover from incidents, acknowledging that preventative measures alone are insufficient. Security professionals recognize the need for robust detection and response systems to support preventive controls, as 100% effectiveness in prevention is rarely achievable. Organizations that plan for potential failures, such as security incidents, natural disasters, or software errors, are more likely to sustain their operations amidst challenges. Companies that excel in resilience often manage to maintain service during incidents or recover swiftly, which can enhance their reputation in the aftermath.

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