
 Wild Card with Rachel Martin
 Wild Card with Rachel Martin Kate Bowler wants to tame her inner efficiency monster
 Jan 9, 2025 
 Kate Bowler, a New York Times bestselling author and Duke University professor, shares her journey with Stage IV cancer and the insights it brings about life and faith. She discusses the dangers of toxic positivity, advocating for a balance between optimism and genuine feelings. The conversation touches on childhood nostalgia, the struggle with productivity pressures, and the significance of vulnerability. Bowler also reflects on the complexity of faith, love, and loss, infused with humor and deep personal anecdotes that resonate beyond life's challenges. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 • 3min 
 Navigating Toxic Positivity and Personal Growth 
 02:46 • 5min 
 Reflections on Nature and Childhood Nostalgia 
 07:56 • 3min 
 Embracing Regrets and Redefining Worth 
 10:40 • 9min 
 Exploring Loneliness and Vulnerability 
 19:31 • 3min 
 Navigating Faith and Mortality 
 22:28 • 13min 
 Exploring Pain, Love, and Humor in Relationships 
 35:17 • 3min 


