In this enlightening discussion, Jason Sands, a retired Air Force veteran and whistleblower, shares his unique experiences in a UFO legacy program. He recounts encounters with non-human beings and a chilling incident involving a crashed UFO and a 'blue' being. Sands reveals a conversation he overheard about 'Tall Whites and Greys' and reflects on why he was ultimately ousted from the program. Listeners are invited into a world of secrecy, emotional impact, and the complexities of whistleblowing in the realm of UFO research.
Jason Sands details his journey from Air Force technician to whistleblower, revealing ethical dilemmas surrounding classified UFO programs and encounters.
He recounts a shocking encounter with a non-human entity on the Nellis Test Range, which challenged his understanding of extraterrestrial interactions.
Sands stresses the importance of fostering a supportive community for UFO disclosure to encourage open dialogue between whistleblowers and the public.
Deep dives
Background of Jay Sands
Jay Sands, a retired United States Air Force veteran, joined the military in 1985 as an airframe repair specialist before transitioning to intelligence. His career includes significant time spent on reverse engineering programs at Groom Lake, also known as Area 51. In 2022, Sands began expressing concerns over potential illegal activities involving unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) and decided to testify before Congress about his experiences. His shift to a public role was not initially planned, but pressures from unexpected media attention and personal convictions prompted him to share his story with the public.
Early UFO Experiences
Sands' interest in UFOs began at a young age when he witnessed a red orb-like craft in San Jose, California, which inexplicably morphed into a bright flash. This formative experience sparked a lasting curiosity that led him to read literature on UFOs, including Project Blue Book and Eric Von Daniken's works. During his teenage years, he distanced himself from the phenomenon, only to revisit it during his time in the Air Force, encountering more strange events. His unique background and firsthand sightings laid the foundation for his later involvement in sensitive military operations.
Role in Reverse Engineering Programs
Sands disclosed that his role in the Air Force involved telecommunications monitoring assessment, focusing on analyzing secure communications for the Department of Defense. After being personally selected for a reverse engineering program, he operated under extreme secrecy, often exposed to classified projects. This work led to his awareness of discussions regarding potential non-human entities and other unexplained phenomena, which created profound ethical dilemmas for him. Despite working with other highly intelligent personnel, Sands noted a significant divide in knowledge, leaving him troubled by certain classified conversations he was privy to during the program.
Encounter with a Non-Human Entity
A pivotal moment during Sands' career occurred when he and his team encountered a being on the Nellis Test Range that he described as resembling an alien, lacking ears and possessing unusually large eyes. The entity requested assistance for a damaged craft and conveyed emotions telepathically, complicating Sands' understanding of the interaction. The experience left him shocked yet compelled to help, reflecting on how he could have been more inquisitive about the being's origin and culture. This encounter heightened his awareness of the complexities surrounding the operational procedures of clandestine military programs involving possible extraterrestrial interactions.
Call for Community Support and Disclosure
Sands emphasized the need for a supportive community approach to UFO disclosure, advocating for individuals to share their experiences without fear of backlash. He highlighted the importance of finding common ground between whistleblowers, the public, and government entities for a productive dialogue around UAPs. His perspective suggests that while some may fear the public is not ready for full transparency, a respectful discourse may encourage more people to come forward with their stories. Sands firmly believes that acknowledgment of extraterrestrial life should be the baseline for further exploration, and the public can actively participate in investigations and documentation of phenomena.
I am joined by retired Air Force Veteran, Whistleblower & former UFO legacy program employee, Jason Sands to discuss:
His work to get into the legacy program
The Nellis UFO crash video (link below)
Encountering a Non-Human being
Hearing a conversation about 'Tall Whites & Greys'
Encounter with a crashed UFO and 'blue' being
Why he was kicked out 'The Program'
And much, much more