What the Camino Taught Me About Leadership with Peter D. Schwartz

In this episode of The Authority Company Podcast, Joe Pardavila sits down with CEO coach, author, and longtime Vistage Master Chair Peter D. Schwartz for a conversation about leadership, growth, and what happens when success strategies stop working. Peter shares the story behind his walk on the Camino de Santiago, a 45-day pilgrimage across northern Spain, and how the journey became a mirror for his own leadership evolution. He explains the moment on the Camino that forced him to confront exhaustion, imperfection, and the limits of chasing mastery, and how that experience reshaped his view of purpose, growth, and meaning. Drawing from decades of coaching hundreds of CEOs, Peter breaks down why early success strategies often fail at higher levels of leadership, how perfection and control quietly stall organizations, and why leaders need to upgrade their internal operating system as complexity increases. The conversation explores letting go of mastery in favor of becoming a journeyman, traveling light by releasing outdated beliefs, and redefining purpose as something you practice daily. Joe and Peter also dig into the power of peer groups, why feedback is difficult but essential, what leaders protect when they resist change, and how vulnerability builds trust inside organizations. Along the way, Peter shares practical insights on clarity, difficult conversations, performance interference, and why the real work of leadership happens over time, one deliberate step at a time. This episode is for leaders, founders, and high performers who sense their old playbook no longer fits and want a more sustainable, human approach to growth.