LONGEVITY with Nathalie Niddam Episode #207: How Stress Is Causing Lymphatic Congestion with Desiree De Spong
Did you know that stress may be causing lymphatic congestion?
In this episode of the Biohacking Superhuman Performance podcast, we chat with Desiree De Spong about how scars, often mere afterthoughts, can profoundly influence our physical and emotional well-being. Desiree illuminates the importance of the lymphatic system, not just as an aspect of our immune defense but as a pillar of overall health, and shares transformative approaches to therapy that include the use of innovative tools like a vibrating ball for perineal rehabilitation.
Desiree sheds light on the lymph system's role, functioning without a central pump and instead relying on muscle movement and breath—elements within our control. She explains the connection between stress and lymphatic congestion, and how embracing calm through technology can offer not just a respite for the mind but also bolster immune function.
Desiree De Spong, a visionary leader and the Founder and CEO of Medella Health in New Zealand, stands at the forefront of lymphatic therapy with nearly two decades of unwavering clinical expertise. A true luminary in her field, Desiree is not only a seasoned practitioner but an international educator who passionately imparts her profound knowledge through sought-after courses in Lymph Node Release Therapy. Her impact resonates beyond borders, as she graces stages and conferences both in the USA and New Zealand, inspiring clinicians worldwide with her insights.
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What we discuss:
(00:01) - The Importance of the Lymphatic System
(04:18) - Lymphatic System and Health
(15:03) - Lymphatic Drainage and Breath for Health
(29:02) - Calm and Technologies for Stress Relief
(32:24) - Innovative Technology for Lymphatic Drainage
(42:06) - Deactivating the Nervous System's Importance
(51:36) - Fascia, Lymphatics, and Handheld Tools
(01:02:07) - Website Updates and Contact Information Sharing
Key takeaways:
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The lymphatic system plays a crucial role as the body's waste removal service, likening it to a garbage truck that cleans up excess fluid from tissues and transports it through lymph vessels. Lymph nodes are the immune system's powerhouses, hosting B cells and T cells essential for fighting infections and other foreign bodies. Thus, the importance of detoxification and how a compromised lymphatic system can lead to a buildup of waste, potentially causing health issues and a weakened immune response.
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It is difficult to achieve a state of calm due to the autonomic nature of the nervous system and the cumulative effect of stress. However, there are various technologies and substances, from wearable devices to psilocybin and CBD, that may be utilized to hack the nervous system and promote vagal nerve tone, signaling safety to the brain and encouraging a parasympathetic state.
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Given that we don’t have a central pump, muscle movement, breathing, and relaxation are all important for promoting lymph flow. If we fail to do so, due to the relationship between the parasympathetic nervous system and lymphatic function, we can inhibit drainage.