That UFO Podcast

Grusch vs Clapper, The Age of Disclosure & the Growing Divide in UFO Disclosure

Jan 11, 2026
The conversation on UFO disclosure is heating up as David Grusch criticizes senior intelligence figures. Key omissions from documentary narratives like crash retrievals and experiencer accounts spark debate. Can these testimonies shift public perception? They also explore the blurred lines of credibility around abduction experiences. Tensions rise as they question the handling of spiritual interpretations and skepticism in interviews. Predictions for the future include a focus on biologics and hope for new whistleblowers, making this a pivotal moment in UFO history.
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INSIGHT

Disclosure Movement Is Fracturing

  • David Grusch criticizes established figures like James Clapper and seeks fuller disclosure beyond curated narratives.
  • Pavel sees a split: some want controlled, gradual release while others (like Grusch) demand complete transparency now.
INSIGHT

Documentary Leaves Out Crucial Threads

  • Pavel argues Age of Disclosure omitted key threads like crashes, abductions, and Stargate-era programs.
  • He believes excluding those elements narrows the story and limits public understanding.
ANECDOTE

Friend Fell Asleep Watching The Film

  • Andy recounts a friend who watched Age of Disclosure and found it offered no new information and fell asleep.
  • Pavel counters with Whitley Strieber's impact, suggesting public testimony can unlock repressed memories.
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