This is the ideal episode for anyone who gets a bit contemplative on a run: The guest is Sabrina Little, Ph.D., a former pro runner and author of The Examined Run. With hosts Sarah Bowen Shea and Coach Liz Waterstraat, Sabrina shares:

-her heartwarming start in ultramarathons;

-that pride doesn’t help you as a runner, but envy can;

-how devices can “separate” us from our surroundings as we run;

-how to rediscover wonder while on a run; and,

-the role of suffering in the lives of runners.

Sarah shares the continuing (!) saga of her son’s wayward birthday card to her before the guest joins around 6:10.

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How Emotions and Virtues Shape Runners